The Trump deportation news thread

Politics & Elections
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The trades have been experiencing a labor shortage since – at least – the pandemic (and the Great Recession before it). This has driven labor rates significantly higher and resulted in a windfall for those currently in the trades.

Why would your concrete sub want a larger labor pool that tends to depress both hours and wages?

Conversely, if we further reduced that labor pool through somewhat draconian means, what effect would that have on the labor pool and wages?

Of course, another way to increase the inventory of available homes is to deport their rightful, current occupants.

Unfortunately, this increase in supply would create downward pricing pressure on the housing market, generally – something existing homeowners and (institutional) investors likely wouldn’t appreciate.

Also, African-Americans and Latinos tend to be fairly religious; therefore, the culture war nonsense has tended to animate them more than the median voter.

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The cruelty is the point. FOXNews will show them because their viewers will cheer for it.

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Uhh, that’s his point and you may have misunderstood. He says he did it the right way, became a citizen, and pays taxes. He is vehemently against what has effectively been open borders.

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My point is: it may be far less about the principle you mention and far more about the principle that I mentioned.

IOW: Economics rather than any true view of “right vs. wrong.”

ETA: see also…

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There’s a saying from trump admin 1.0: “his detractors take trump literally, but they don’t take him seriously. His supporters take him seriously but they don’t take him literally”.

20 million is a big number trump threw out with, I’m sure, little or no understanding or concern as to the reality of it or feasibility of making it happen. My guess is that the trump admin will make a big show of certain public raids and deportations, but the actual number of people being deported over the next 4 years will likely be fewer in reality than there were under the Biden administration.

This is not to minimize the pain and hardship that the people who do get deported will experience. I think that regardless of the actual amount of active damage the trump admin manages to cause, the worst or longest-lasting damage will be the lies that become accepted as fact and the hateful mindset that becomes institutionalized.

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This belongs here, too:

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Concentration camps.“Arbeit macht frei”

That was Martin Van Buren . Yes, Jackson signed the order- that is on him- but the deaths and mistreatment were caused by the racism, corruption and inefficiency of the Van Buren administration. Mind you- Jackson is responsible to kicking them off their lands.

President Donald Trump on Sunday announced retaliatory tariffs on Colombia after its president said he blocked US military deportation flights, the first instance of Trump using economic pressure to force other nations to fall in line with his mass deportation plans since he took office last week.

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Moderating: Please avoid posting such graphic looking pictures. Please don’t do this again.

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ICE raids have begun in Chicago

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The outlet said Trump was disappointed with the deportation campaign so far, citing four people with knowledge of the briefings, and Ice field offices should make 75 arrests per day and managers would be held accountable for missing quota target

Held accountable for missing quotas? I’m sure that won’t turn out badly.

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Finally a quota White Americans can get behind!

But seriously, a lot of innocent people are going to get harassed and scooped up so these quotas are met. As pressure to deliver numbers increases the dangers to every person with brown skin and a Spanish last name increases.

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Which is exactly the point. Get the populace in an uproar and hope for violent clashes between activists and those conducting raids, then voila! Invoking the Insurrection Act and imposing martial law. This is a DJT, Homan, Miller wet dream

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India. They’re Indians, they’ll be sent to India.

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First, I’ll just note that I have no issue with deporting people who have illegally overstayed their visa or otherwise come illegally into the country. (Up to the point where it causes an issue with the food supply.)

I’m more interested in the question of how honestly this whole deal will be executed.

Given that we’re just having our first raid, after deportations already began, my take would be that these were all people slated for deportation anyways and that Trump is just coasting on Biden’s work, clearing the holding cells out of schedule.

The flights are largely just for drama but have no impact on anything and weren’t necessary, since we haven’t increased our capture rate yet.

That said, you would want to clear out room if you intend to actually increase captures so I don’t know that we can call the whole thing a fraud quite yet.

If he’s starting raids in Chicago, that implies to me that he’s planning to hit the cities, anger the libs, but otherwise leave the bulk of illegal denizens - e.g. the ones working in farms or for Republican bosses - alone. He’s mostly targeted the ones who stand outside of Home Depot in urban centers, working for yuppie/liberal home owners.

I’d note that, if you do want to hunt down and detail 10s of millions of people that you need to increase the budget for all of this. If Trump doesn’t want to have to wait a year, and genuinely wants to hunt down illegals, he should have had a day one budget request. I believe that’s currently MIA?

And obviously no plan to prosecute people for hiring illegal workers?

I’d just note that if anyone wanted to screw with Trump, they would just need to find illegal workers at Wynn hotels, and in the workforce of other Trump allies, and report them to ICE.

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For historical reference: Operation Wetback. Some of the deportees were U.S. citizens.

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Canada. It’s where they came from a thousand years ago, long before any of the bastids who want to deport them got here.

Southern Athabaskan peoples, including the Navajo, are thought to have descended from a southward migration of Athabaskan peoples from subarctic North America around 1,000 years ago.[9] It has been suggested that the Navajo and Apaches may have migrated due to the effects of a volcanic explosion in the Saint Elias Mountains of Alaska around 803 AD.[10] Part of the migration was along the Rocky Mountains before arriving in the present-day southwest United States.[11]

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TIL that there is a Nuremberg in Pennsylvania. Now build a courthouse.

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What would happen if those gathered up just clammed up and said nothing? I can see some Hispanic citizen activists deliberately getting themselves rounded up just to gum up the works.

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I don’t know. But it would be fun to watch if the Cherokees were deported back to Georgia, the Carolinas, and Tennessee.