The Trump Impeachment Inquiry

Are we still pretending he’s anonymous here?

I’m sorry, has his or her identity been confirmed beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law?

I’m sorry but I cannot confirm or deny that it’s Kelly Ann Conway.

Well, I have no idea what his/her identity is. And I can’t see why it matters, everything from the initial whistle-blowing has been admitted or otherwise substantiated. It could have started by my pet poodle randomly hitting keys on my computer, but the allegations have been established beyond any doubt. The only question now is what the consequence should be.

ETA: Also, whistleblowers have a legal right to remain anonymous, so it does seem fair to mention that now and then.

“It looks like there was shady shit” – uh yeah, right.

There has not been any evidence at all that there were any illegal acts committed by the Bidens – they apparently didn’t even violate Ukrainian laws, so it beggars belief that this is somehow within our jurisdiction. Bribery is a crime in the US, but again, there’s an absence of proof; the only thing that seems certain is that the president abused his power to pressure the Ukrainian leadership to conduct an investigation into a matter that had largely been resolved, at least according to Ukrainians.

I’m still thinking it’s Kato Kaelin. :smiley: Would that really surprise anyone at this point?

Trump does more “shady shit” by 10 am than, well, anybody, ever. But HD and Nunes are awake all night worried about the Bidens.

The NRA “donated” relatively little money to Republicans and Trump in 2016 (roughly $1M). Most of their money was spent on independent expenditures ($54M).

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Maybe you can first explain the Trump supporter point of view that the whistleblower simultaeously knows nothing that isn’t hearsay but also must be called to testify on the things that he supposedly doesn’t know anything about.

We use the “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard in criminal cases to establish the guilt of the accused. It’s not typically the standard we use to establish basic facts.

It appears their “point of view” is simply to discourage future whistle blowers. There must be dozens of them watching how this shakes out

I’m pretty sure the Republicans want to call him to testify about his collusion with Schiff’s staff and his political motives / biases / history.

Do we have any evidence that would meet any standard to establish who the whistle blower is? I don’t visit Brietbart’s web site, so maybe I missed it.

You answered your own question. And I agree. But I still think there is a non-zero number of Republican Senators who are beholden to Putin for … reasons…

Is that a no? I asked you a fair question.

But if there is the slightest possibility that the child of someone in a high public office gained a career advantage by their relationship to their father, it must be rooted out. After all no Republican would ever consider such a thing.

“a lot”? LOL!

No. A minuscule fraction. $2,513 (rounding up) last I heard.

This is nothing more nor less than a mob bosses lawyer wanting to know the identity of someone in a witness protection program DURING THE INVESTIGATION, before anything goes to court.

Just for innocent purposes though. To see if the witness is somehow compromised because they know a police officer or something. Right.

It was a silly nonsensical question without any relevance to anything.

Indeed, this has been long and well-established. The Russians have hacked our political system and the infection runs deep.

As I wrote last May:

The bold is what Taylor spoke of today.

Here’s another ominous question: just how far has Russia made its way into our political system? Because it now seems beyond clear that Russian interests are being carried under the auspices of our Department of Justice through Bill Barr.

We also know that through Giuliani, Barr, and others, Russian interests have successfully undermined the Department of State. As we’ve learned, there is now a parallel foreign policy, a de facto state department which operates according to the special interests of the president and his close political allies. Keep in mind that this is being defended by Republicans in Congress with full knowledge of what they’re defending.

Why should we assume that they’ve stopped there? I think we should also assume that the Russian influence has also probably made its way into the United States military. What if there’s a Bill Barr type general or two in the military? What if there’s a shadowy Giuliani type figure secretly directing military policy to suit Russian interests over our own national interests? I mean, isn’t that why Bolton is out?

The military is the ultimate lever of power.