Trump and his campaign have been quite good at playing music without permission. Here is a thread to document the past cases, and point out any new cases as they come along:
Adele - Rolling in the Deep
The Rolling Stones - Start Me Up
Neil Young - Rockin in the Free World
Stephen Tyler - Dream On
REM - End of the Word as We Know It
Queen - We are the Champions
Why is it exactly that Trump feels he can use music without asking permission or paying for it? Over and over and over again?
From a CNN article I read on this, Queen at least is looking into legal options. But I’m not sure how much traction they will get. Surly Trump et al looked into the legal aspects of this…no?
(:smack: What am I saying? Trump et al looking into something and figuring out if it’s feasible? Perish the thought)
Same reason Mitt Romney and John McCain and Sarah Palin and every other Republican nominee does: They get tired of playing Ted Nugent, Meatloaf and Kid Rock all the time.
A lot of his supporters probably like that he does this. They like that he does whatever the hell he wants and nobody can tell him otherwise. They see it as in indication of strength when in reality he’s just an asshole.
They all do it.
The time you hear about it(usually) is when a candidate’s politics clashes badly with the artist’s.
What’s more amusing is when the candidate isn’t aware that the song contradicts what the candidate stands for.
Such as Reagan using Born In The U.S.A.
Steven Tyler sent Trump a cease and desist letter last year, after which the Trump campaign stopped using his song (and of course, Trump insulted Aerosmith)
So it would appear that Trumps staff did not get legal permission, as they backed down pretty damn quick.
Actually, the music artists DO tell him otherwise. Then he backs down and says that the artists in question were shitty anyway.
Right, but his followers probably don’t know that. I doubt that right wing websites mention it.
Wait, are you saying that right wing websites don’t fully inform their consumers? That’s crazy talk. Next you will be saying that right wing news sources like Fox News aren’t providing a fair and balanced news offering.
Queen? Trump plays Queen? Laugh? I thought I’d surely die!
Awesome username/thread title combo.
What is the actual law on the subject? Provided the venue where the rally is held pays its BMI license can’t they play any music covered by BMI?
There are two separate issues here. One is playing the song, the other is playing the particular artist.
If you’re willing to pay the licensing fee, you can play the generic song all you want.
However, if you want to use Queen, the Rolling Stones, Neil Young, Adele or any other specific artist, they can get after you for using them without permission.
This came up in a previous thread but even having the BMI fee paid does not cover commercial use such as a campaign but I don’t remember the specifics. I’ll try to find the thread.
And best typo of the week.
Here it is.
Starts from post 114.
Boils down to even if the campaign has paid to use the song, the artist can legally object due to loss of reputation.
Lots of links and quotes.
Most of Trump’s 3,500 lawsuits are a result of his not reimbursing vendors for services rendered.
If he doesn’t like paying the guy who hooks up his toilets, why would he give money to some big rock star?
I have noticed he uses “Get Ready For This”- 2 Unlimited, that 90’s dance song you often hear at sprouting events. They are almost one hit wonder Dutch dance group from the 90’s and are unlikely to suit Donald Trump, unlike those other artists.
I guess that’s the secret of his success:
“Sorry buddy - I loved the pianos you delivered, but can’t really be bothered to pay you full price. Here’s 70 cents on the dollar”
“Ahhhh, not gonna pay you the final payment of $87,000 for cabinets for my hotel… Your work was… shoddy. Ya, that’s it, shoddy. So no money for you. By the way, hope to see you bid on my next project , love your work!”
“Ask for permission to play music? Fuck no, i do what I want”
Actually it goes beyond that. Here’s what a NY developer says: [INDENT][INDENT][INDENT]Donald contracts for a service or good, or the acquisition of a piece of land for $1 million.
He then does not pay you
You ask Donald for your million dollars
Donald yells at you, basely, abusively, wholly out of character to the rich gentleman you broke bread with and made the deal with. He tells you that no, YOU owe him $200,000. Gives you no reason but screams how can you be such a son of a bitch to rip him off, how he’s going to sue you, expose you as a cheat, etc.
You’re off your pins, defensive. How could this be the guy who was so nice when he picked up the check at Per Se?
So, you compromise, because human nature avoids conflict, right? This is what he’s gaming you for because once you compromised, you’ve lost. You’ve inferred his premise that you have some complicity in the matter otherwise why would you compromise? You are on the defensive and will never get it back.
You offer $750,000 as a settlement, angry buy want it over and done with. He then sues you. Why, because you’ve already committed yourself to the loss. You volunteered to surrender your position and what will stop you from keeping going?
I’ve seen many a New Yorker settle things like this with Trump people for 5-10 cents on the dollar and then happy, even eager to keep doing business with them. Why? Because he got in their heads with this aggressively counterintuitive behavior. [/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT] That last paragraph blows me away.