The United States Declares Economic War on Canada

Hat tip for excellent reference.

Hard to tell in this thread…

At any rate, it is a good idea to think about things with an increasingly unreliable neighbor to the south.

The best time to have those sorts of questions about expenditures and planning was at least a couple decades ago. The next best time is now. Tempered, of course, by what is actually possible. You fight with the army you have, not the one you wish you had.

The US 101st Division alone has 18,000 armed, trained people in it. This number is a little daunting.

Good point.

The US Army does not fight by divisions any more. They’re a holdover from earlier wars and are now just paper units. They won’t get rid of that particular division because of its storied history, but they won’t send it into battle as a unit.

Anyway, one thing to consider about a potential US-Canadian war is that the US Army is not positioned to invade Canada. A larger fraction of its combat units are in other countries and those that are stateside are mostly located in the South.

A 24 hour drive from Miami to Toronto! Of course clearing customs would slow that down.

Now Trump is floating a 100% tariff on Canadian cars.

Army units don’t travel anywhere near that fast. More like a couple months minimum just to go from Fort Bragg Liberty (some other) Bragg to the Canadian border.

Don’t fight the hypothetical! (Kidding! I’m outta here, I have nothing useful to add)

It wouldn’t be at all hard for them to move into position reasonably quickly. You don’t need to get the entirety of the armed services into position; it would take a fraction of their strength to pull off the initial operation.

lol, why such an inflated number? Didn’t think 25% would do the job?

I mean who, in their right mind, would pay an extra 25% on a tens of thousands dollar car? 100% I guess would discourage those stragglers.

Because Elon Musk wants his competitors destroyed.

It cannot possibly be more obvious.

Couldn’t be more obvious. 100% tariff on a car is to just plain ban all Canadian cars.

Well, yes, that is the fundamental problem for us. No matter what we do, the US will always be able to out-spend us, and field more soldiers. It’s not a question of can we win, but can we cost the US enough in the process of losing that they decide it’s not even worth the effort?

The CBSA would tie up that column of tanks, asking every single one if they have cigarettes or tabaco to declare.

In the meantime, I could get behind enemy lines by using my NEXUS card and telling them that I am just going shopping at Trader Joe’s.

No such thing as a Canadian car under USMCA. A crankshaft crosses the borders seven or eight times.

No conflict at all if Musk is involved in making decisions affecting the auto sector.

I really hate that we can’t link directly to videos. But at least I can see how many people clicked on it.

Charlie Angus Message to Donald Trump: we won’t kiss the gangster ring

In a nutshell [paraphrasing]: ‘The United States is no longer our ally.’ ‘Thank you, Canadians for not buying American products.’ ‘States are in full panic mode over tourism. Right now there are $2 billion and 140,000 American jobs at risk… if just 10% of Canadians cancel their trips.’ ‘Oh, Gregg Abbott is going to teach Canada a lesson? We have $400 million in travel that goes to Texas. How about we teach you a lesson? We’ve got better places to go than Texas.’ ‘Canada is the largest export market for American bourbon and whiskey. It’s going to hurt the distillers when we don’t buy their products.’ ‘We will never, ever, ever, kiss the ring of that gangster from Mar-a-Lago.’ Good message.

Canadian tourism to US is down; US jobs will be lost. Canadians redirecting tourism to Mexico and Caribbean.

They should redirect to Cuba. Those Socialist Canadians are allowed. The United States is a Free Country™ which is why we’re not allowed to travel there freely.

We absolutely can; you just have to do some shenanigans with Discourse and the posting window, as I described over in an ATMB thread.

Here’s your video.