Interesting. I looked it up and now know a bit more. Thanks, ignorance fought.
It wouldn’t cause a ruckus if most people didn’t have such a bizarre attitude towards guns…
Nope, like silenus said, most states are “shall issue” now, meaning they must issue a license so long as the applicant passes the background check and any training that is applicable. There is no training requirement in my state. IIRC, 37 states are “shall-issue” now, and two (Vermont and Alaska) have no restriction on carrying firearms whatsoever.
So yes, the average college student who is at least 21 years of age can definitely get a license. I know several of my fellow students (just in my department) who are firearms enthusiasts with concealed pistol licenses. They are all serious, responsible individuals who are well-versed in gun safety.
Ever heard of a man named Joel Myrick? The fact that he stopped a school shooting in Pearl, MS is not all that well known, but he did. He did so after retrieving his firearm from his car.
Remember the shooting at the Appalachian Law School? It was ended by students who got their guns out of their cars.
Do you remember when a fourteen year old student started shooting at a school dance in Edinboro, PA? James Strand grabbed a shotgun and apprehended the shooter.
Those events were not as widely publicized as some of the others, but none the less are examples of times when things could’ve been much, much worse.
Disputed. Bernie fired a volley of blanks when he took on the press corps' gun bias
Yep. Mr. Strand grabbed a shotgun, not his carry-permitted handgun.
If I came to class and found myself surrounded by gun-toting tweens, I’d not only arm myself to the teeth, I’d show up every day in full riot gear.
As for concealed weapons, I think a fair balance can be struck: issue the permit, but stipulating rectal concealment only. It’ll help naturally limit the size of weaponry brought in, for all but the most ardent and dedicated gun enthusiasts.
Right-I just sent out a bunch of scholarship rejections to young, male Texans. Most of whom are currently in my building on my floor. I would need to work from an undisclosed location.
Whitman shot people from a tower. Most concelaed carry guns make pretty poor counter-sniper weapons. Unless sombody has a conceled Dragunov under a really long coat, concealed carry ain’t going to help here.
And it may not reduce shootings at all, but I don’t really see shooting incresing. I’d like to see some modeling, though.
Can you set the bar a little lower, please?
I am not sure what your point is-Whitman was the aggressor. The aggressor can use whatever weapon he wants.
If there were there more guns in colleges-I think there would be more suicide in dorms. I doubt spree killings would be affected in the least.
Not only that, but remember the arguments 20 years ago when Florida passed its “shall issue” concealed weapons permit law? At the time some small states had “shall-issue” but Florida was the first large state to pass it.
I remember all of the weeping and gnashing of teeth. People would be shooting at Cubans trying to come ashore. People would get into a fender bender and the argument would escalate into a wild-west shootout. Neighbors would kill each other over boundary disputes. People waiting in line at the grocery store would shoot each other over who was first in line, etc. etc. etc.
All of that complaining and it never came to pass. Law-abiding people are able to control their arguments without resorting to murder, and the criminals already carry guns illegally anyways. That’s why they are called “criminals”. It always amazes me to find otherwise intelligent people thinking that gun laws will keep guns away from the bad guys.
I’m not saying that allowing concealed carry on campus would guarantee a student’s safety, but it is morally wrong for a college administration to tell a student that he/she may not carry a weapon for protection, but then not provide adequate security, not only in class, but elsewhere on campus
The idea that heroes with guns would have always stopped these things is just cranky NRA damage control. They know, deep down inside, that every time some prick opens fire, they are in a little bit more trouble.
I actually lean second amendment, even though (or because?) I’m a liberal, but I find these arguments hard to believe. Alternative histories are non-falsifiable, but I think it goes without saying that the more people with guns, the more crazy people with guns.
I’m thinking that perhaps there should be a ban on black clothing. It’s what all these guys seem to wear.
Better yet, how about a dress code requiring everyone to wear bright red, yellow and blue? I’m thinking it’s hard to work up a rage when you look like the sartorial version of a banjo.
You may have missed the counter-sniper part of my post.
My point is, a citizen with a little .38 isn’t going to take out a tower sniper but might help in the more common nut in a classroom case.
My fire extinguisher won’t do anything against a forest fire behind my house, but might put out a kitchen fire.
What about college age people who live off campus and have guns?
Marc
You know, that might work. How about striped stockings? I think “looking cool” plays into these homicidal fantasies, and looking like Pippi Longstocking would take away any delusion that you look cool shooting up a classroom.
True.
It might cause an upswing in suicides though. 
You know, there are several “locations” at Disneyland (and I suppose probably Disneyworld, though I’m not up on their culture) that have basically this dress code. And I’m not aware of any shootings at DL (stabbings, yes. Shootings, no.)
Perhaps there is something to this. Can I wear red, green, and blue, though? I always look jaundiced in yellow.
Sure! Green, too! 
I’ve never met someone with this attitude in real life, and I think you are a fucking lunatic.
ex-Navy, qualified duty gunnersmate, currently attending a university.
…what?
He’s a lunatic for wanting to extend the right of responsible adults to carry to their university campuses? Are you sure you’re replying to the right post? Your reply just seems so incongruous I’m having a hard time believing it. :dubious: