Trump ridiculed the electorate?
Yes. Repeatedly.
It sure would be if that was indeed what she said. It wasn’t, however. Like so many such memes, it was something taken out of context, stripped of nuance, and blasted around the world, because it was something a lot of people wanted her to have said.
Let’s not forget my good dog Bonnie. Except for Rice, and the unknown quantity of your wife, I’m sure she’d make your list, based on what looks like your criteria.
Sure:
That’s simply the nature of memes, fair or not. Dukakis in the tank. Kerry and swift boats. GHW Bush’s Read My Lips.
It does help that Senator Doug Jones, the white knight of sexual assault victims everywhere, said that Trump should not resign.
I think its becoming clear that you are. On several fronts.
Extrapolating logic is a pretty important part of debate. I you come up with a theory and your theory doesn’t work when applied to analogous facts, then perhaps its not much of a theory. The misogyny in America is pretty light compared to other countries that have seen female heads of state. Perhaps Hillary was just a bad candidate.
This reminds me of he time when gay people pretended they had it worse than blacks and then gay black people came out and said “are you crazy?”
Women are subject to different disadvantages than racial minorities but for every obstacle women face I can point to an obstacle that black men face that white women do not face. Perhaps Hillary was just a bad candidate.
Irrelevant facts, but facts nonetheless.
Yayy Hillary ran up the biggest Calfirona margin in history. She won California by over 4 million votes. In the meantime if she had 100,000 more votes in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan, she could be POTUS right now. But she never even went to some of those states. Maybe she is just a bad candidate.
Maybe Hillary lost because she is bad at being a politician.
Smart money is still on the white man but its no harder for a white woman than it is for a black man.
No, no its not. Voter turnout in “safe states” is traditionally low. Hillary just happened to energize high voter turnout in a safe state, California. Her nationwide lead was 3 million. Of that 3 million popular vote advantage, 4 million was from California.
She was a poor choice, too conservative to win over the progressives, too hated by the Right to attract a lot of swing voters.
I held my nose to vote for her, but had the other side not put forth a true fascist I probably wouldn’t have been driven to vote.
While sexism is alive and well, and she did lose votes for having the wrong parts she wasn’t even close to being the best choice for the first serious Democrat female candidate.
I also felt her husband was more like George Herbert Walker Bush than a progressive, and in full disclosure; Tipper Gore also made it hard for me to vote for Al Gore, she was in bed with the Eagle Forum and the PMRC. The Eagle Forum and Phyllis Schlafly, is one of the largest anti-feminist, pro-life, anti-gay and ultimately anti-free speech organizations in America. I didn’t want Tipper Gore as a First Lady just as I didn’t want the sexist and homophobic Bill Clinton in that role. Bill Clinton will always be the president of DOMA in my mind, no matter if he was a Democrat or not.
I know lots of reliable Democrat voters that felt the same without giving one hoot about what private parts she had.
I’d think that their opinions don’t matter in terms of electoral success. Isn’t it only the unreliable voters who make the difference?
After eight years of a Democrat in the White House, the GOP starts out ahead.
Every candidate has strengths and weaknesses. One strength Hillary had was the good US economic performance when her husband was president. Some of the younger people here may not recall that, but older people who do remember vote a lot. And that’s where Bernie Sanders is, in an electoral sense, weak – because the world socialism is not a electoral positive in the US. On economics, Hillary was strong, and you can’t assume someone else would be.
At the national level, no candidate is immune to opposition research.
One theory is that after an exciting President, people want someone boring, and visa versa. Boring sounds good to me right now (and I am a swing voter).
Another theory, which I hope isn’t true, is that it doesn’t matter who the candidate is – all that matters is whether it is a Democratic or Republican year. The fact that Donald friggin’ Trump could, in 2016, beat a mainstream Democrat, provides evidence in that direction.
Gay people just “pretended” they had it worse?
That comment is asinine.
In many ways it was demonstrably more difficult to be gay than to be black. When in many states discrimination against gays was legal it was worse in at least some aspects.
It’s also hardly clear that “gay black people” disagreed despite your claim.
I’m sure there were several in your lifetime. You don’t get to be President by being so stupid as to admit you’ve ever had a crisis of faith.
The fact that Hillary was considered the Heiress Apparent for so long pretty much demonstrates that the US was ready for a woman President.
The country WAS ready a year ago, but the Hillary debacle ruined chances for any woman candidate for many years to come.
People react. They’ll want whatever Trump is not. That means that they will vote for women. Trump may turn out to be the best thing that ever happened for feminism.
She was rock solid at the U.N. the other day. It’s way too early, but could see myself voting for her.
You mean when she said they better play nice or we’d take all our marbles and go home. Yeah, really mature. :rolleyes: I heard her on the radio and she sounded like a kindergartner.
Considering she was addressing the U.N., that would be audience level appropriate.