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Republican Senators Susan Collins of Maine and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska joined with McCain and the Democrats to preserve the Affordable Health Care Act. These are two women I want to know more about.
But after that they put arsenic in the ACA’s soup when they killed the individual mandate via the tax reform bill.
Yes, but in that instance they didn’t have to go against their tribe to do so.
Yeah, comments like that. :rolleyes: Very mature.
There may be a slight drift towards a change but she was running against Donald fucking Trump. That slight current she was swimming against isn’t what killed her.
That’s the problem. To many people, her biggest qualification was being married to Bill Clinton. On economics, Hillary was seen a globalist and a lot of people were pretty sick and tired of seeing all this economic prosperity in China based on free and open markets and all the wage suppression here based on a lax immigration policy.
She was, there was nothing we didn’t know before the campaign except the fact that she cheated (or people cheated for her) during the primaries.
Wait was Obama the exciting president or was he boring because I thought he was pretty exciting. Tingle up my leg and everything.
It was Hillary. Trump won because of Hillary. We can’t just throw anyone up there in 2020 and expect them to beat Trump. They have to be appealing to the majority of the electorate, not just the “ready for Hillary” crowd.
I think when you throw around words like asinine, it is particularly embarrassing to be wrong.
If you recall during the gay rights debate, the comparison being made was not the gay rights movement to the CURRENT state of affairs for blacks in America. It was in comparison to the Civil Rights Movement. In what way did gays have it worse than blacks before the civil rights movement? Or were you premature to use the word asinine when you didn’t know what the fuck you were talking about?
If you didn’t understand the context of the statement, then perhaps you should make more of an effort to understand the context before you start throwing around words like asinine because it can make you look foolish.
Maybe so on the Democrat side. But my conservative friends seem to be pretty impressed with Condoleeza Rize and Nikki Haley. Both of whom would be able to pick up more than a few Democratic votes.
I think the Hillary debacle largely soured the nation on “The Clintons”. Also, I believe we’re going to see a surge of women running for Congress in the next couple years.
This may be true. A shitload of women got elected into the Virginia house and senate. 11 out 15 of the seats that flipped Democrat in the house were women. There were about half a dozen other Republicans that were within a couple hundred votes of losing their seat.
I’m encouraged by the fact that women candidates are proving to be as accomplished bullshitters as their male counterparts. Our local paper is doing a Q&A with all the gubernatorial candidates, and this is what former Congresswoman Betty Sutton (D) had to say in refusing to answer the question about raising taxes:
“As governor, I will reprioritize our state’s revenues and funding holistically, so that we can adequately find the resources we need to immediately tackle these large problems without just looking at each individually within the current framework.”
Congratulations, Betty! No male candidate could’ve emitted a bigger load of evasive crap.
Evocative. Wasn’t that the title of a song by Bill Haley and the Comets?
Most of the women here in Virginia seemed to be running on one or two actual issue. For example: there is a transwoman that won running simply on reducing traffic on a two lane road. The traffic on this road probably affects over 10,000 people.
Another woman ran mostly on the Medicaid expansion. She seems pretty conservative for a Democrat but her campaign slogan seemed to be “everyone else is getting this money, why not us?”
And a lot of people were just really shocked at what the Republicans were becoming under Trump.
Hell, I thought she ran just to beat the moron who introduced the transgender bathroom bill. 
Blacks had black parents, who knew what their kids would go through and give them advice and help shelter them as best they could. Blacks could live lives openly as blacks…restricted lives, with a lot of opportunities not open to them, and looked down by the majority, but, for the most part, they could live openly as themselves. Blacks could have open romantic relationships and marry other blacks, and not have to worry about losing their jobs, their homes, or their lives because of it.
Those were some ways that gays had it worse than blacks before the Civil Rights Movement.
That masy be WHY she ran but that’s not HOW she ran. Its a pretty conservative district, there’s a reason why they kept electing the dude who specializes in vaginal ultrasounds, gay marriage bans and trans banning bathroom bills that promotes himself as homophobe in chief. But people were able to overcome their homophobia because they hate traffic THAT much.
The Republican’s entire campaign was “forget about medicaid expansion are you really going to vote for a chick with dick” “forget about the absolutely fucked up traffic you can’t for for the shemale” Turns out campaigning on gender identity politics is not working so well for Democrats OR Republicans these days.
Blacks didn’t really have a choice about living openly. If a black man could stay in the closet and live as a white man, I suspect most of them would have lived their entire life that way. In some ways, having that closet to hide in to avoid the persecution and bigotry was a luxury that gays had that blacks did not.
Gays could live just as openly as blacks, sure their lives would be restricted with a lot of opportunities not open to them, but for the most part, they can live openly as themselves.
Yeah as long as it was with another black person just like gays can love anyone they want as long as it is with someone of the opposite sex and not have to worry about losing their job, etc.
You do realize that black men lost their lives for dating white women, right?
So in conclusion, gays had it worse than blacks in ONE way. They didn’t have gay parents to tell them how much it was going to suck to be a white gay man who would have to hide their gayness but could otherwise achieve pretty much everything they want in life.
In almost all other ways, being black sucked much harder precisely because they couldn’t hide their blackness from a society that hated them for being black.
I disagree. A term I’ve used about Clinton here is deceptive whereas I’ve called Trump an honest liar. I should really have called him an open liar. I’ve been reading about Clinton on Quora and one thing those who’ve worked with her pretty much all say is that in front of the camera she’s one thing but behind the scenes she is a nasty piece of work. Whereas Trump is openly nasty. Trump’s behaviour is the more open, so that helped him get elected.
Is it time to revisit this question yet? We face some 25 months of shifting elec-tides before the next presidential vote. Will the controversies with Kavanaugh, et (inevitably) al, be having an effect on our 2020 visions?
There are various “votes”. The “black vote”, the “Hispanic vote”, the this vote, the that vote.
If someone can galvanize and inspire the “stupid asshole vote” the way that Trump has, that person wins. That particular constituency is extremely powerful in the US, and it is not going away quickly.
Too little, too late.