The “usual suspects” have been arrested in Casablanca.
What on earth are you talking about?
Collounsbury, it’s a reference to the line “Round up the usual suspects” in the movie Casablanca. Rather fitting.
Ah voila, I am shamed to admit Greeny got me. Bam in the kisser.
Good work.
Perhaps there is something to be said for elucidator, who – despite his excesses – is making at least a small effort to keep this issue alive.
Because without cage-rattling like this, WMD and this original case made for the war will be soon be forgotten in a news haze of returning war “heroes” and liberated Iraqis.
What more do you want from the guy? He’s already admitted on multiple occasions in a single thread that he was wrong, which is probably more than the heretofore cumulative total in his entire SDMB career. Personally, I’m amazed. 
He does owe me a clear set of predictions on Iraq in another thread. Want to have the record clear in six months.
Most annoying right-wing poster… praising most annoying left-wing poster… universe… imploding…
I was hoping Brutus had left out a sarcastic smiley or something, because the statement that he was replying to, beginning with Elucidator’s "As to open-mindedness, I don’t need to be open minded. " is not only one of the most moronic things ever posted on the SDMB, but it captures in a nutshell why Great Debates is usually such a cesspool.
december, I believe that you owe me that “tip of the hat”. In this thread half way down page one I stated that
and again half way down page two I stated that
As for the Bush administration not knowing that there weren’t any there, I certainly don’t know why they weren’t paying attention to Hussein Kamal Saddam’s son in law, and former head of the Nuclear weapons program, when he stated to the UN in 1995 that
Kamal was subsequently sent back to Iraq and he was executed. This information was reported in 4 Feb. issue of Newsweek. Unfortunately Newsweek has a pay archive, but here is some further information.
So that’s why the Administration’s been equating non-support of the President with support for terrorists! :eek:
Unless you’re an isolationist like myself, you have no room to talk. Your gang probably launched a war one time or another that was pointless and stupid and based on lies, and at any rate shouldn’t have been conducted because it was needless proactive meddling. We need only look back to Yugoslavia 5 years ago. Then to Iraq 1. Then to Vietnam, and the lies LBJ bought into about the Gulf of Tonkin. Then to Korea. Then to the European theatre of WW2. Then to WW1 and that phoney baloney “Zimmerman telegram.” Then to the Maine, the Lusitania, and any other ship we ever lied about being blown up by some imagined enemy nation to drag the American people into some stupid war or another.
100 years of this, and people still have the gall to act surprised when every single frickin’ war other than the war against Japan has been fueled by greed, power, and lies. Honestly, with a track record like this, what do people really expect?
Thanks Col. Very mature response. I am ashamed to admit that this latest exchange with you gives me so much pleasure.
Hey it’s free. A light bit of sunshine for you.
You view that as “needless proactive meddling”?
Well, Gary, he said he’s an isolationist.
I say let him have at it. Cut the US off from global capital flows. He’ll enjoy it.
Rex, I’m fine with you wanting to be an osilationist, but just out of curiosity, are you actually denying that the Lusitania was torpedoed by a German submarine? That seems to be what you’re literally saying. How else did it sink? It didn’t hit an iceberg.
And you do know, I assume that the Lusitania was torpedoed in 1915 but the US entered the war in 1917 based on OTHER causes, yes?
My theory is that it was sunk by the British in an attempt to drag us into the war.
The Lusitania set the stage, but Americans still wanted to stay out of war, because back then we knew better than to poke our noses into everybody else’s conflicts. The American people preferred not to become entangled in the alliances that mired the rest of the world in endless conflict. To that end, they elected a man who promised to keep us out of war. A promise that he broke within months of his election, with the fraudulent, so-called “Zimmerman telegram” as his excuse. And who claimed to have “intercepted” that transmission? The British again, of course.
And you wonder why isolationism has fallen into such ill-repute?
Some… “theory”.