It seems to me that a prison, or better yet a prison farm, would be a great place to hole up.
I’m just reading World War Z, and I noticed the good doctor telling Rick, “everything’s going to be alright.” Great reference, if it was intentional!
Except that if the zombies spot you and begin to congregate, you are under siege for the duration. A life sentence in whatever prison you’ve chosen.
As for my inability to remember names, I just want to say I’m impressed that some of you guys not only remember her name, but know the odd spelling as well. Unless you just remember from the comics.
I think the problem with this show is that the three main characters in the love triangle are so annoying/unappealing. Rick is an uptight prig who insists on endangering everyone to appease his asinine personal moral code. Shane is rapey, dopey, and jealous. Lori is boring, whiney, and mullet-y. (Seriously, she was ten times hotter when she was on Prison Break.)
Personally, I’d cheer if any of the three got a bullet in the head or a zombie bite to the face. At least I’d know that the show would instantly become ten times more interesting without them. That’s why people like Daryl; he’s an ass, but he seems to be slightly less idiotic than his cohorts.
She wasn’t in the comics, but there is this neat thing called Wikipedia… ![]()
Edit to add - I think the series will veer from the graphic novels more than most people expect. I’ve only read through the first 48 issues (the first eight trade paperbacks), but I feel safe in saying there is no way in hell that some of what happened in the books will be able to be replicated on prime time television, even with a parental advisory.
March 8th. It just popped in my Facebook feed.
The more I think about it, Morgan (and son) from episode one had the best idea of all of them. Pick a house in a small town, fortify it, go out in the day and thin out the zombies. The only trouble I could foresee would be running out of supplies, but if most of the town ran for the big city, it might not be as picked clean.
Um, well… ![]()
Reading the books then, should make you happy on at least two counts.
Spoiler request from anyone who’s read the books (not that these go by the books necessarily):
Do the zombies/walkers ever “die”? By which I mean is there some point where they decompose or die of exposure or of not getting “bbrraaiinns…” for a few months, or do they just keep on going and going until shot in the head?
There’s a case to be made for staying on the move, and taking on a hunter-scavenger lifestyle to avoid running out of resources, and also stay ahead of the zombies.
In the comic, a character described herds that develop. One zombie seeing another moving with purpose will get up and follow thinking they might have a lead on some food. A small group might accumulate which encounters and follows another group. Near a metro with an original population of several million, it’s imaginable that 100,000 might shamble through an area especially if geography tends to funnel them one way or another. You would want to be able to stay ahead of that .
I would think the best approach is to start moving west. Lower population density means lower zombie density. The Mississippi would make a good barrier against the tens of millions of Eastern zombies.
I say make camp atop Stone Mountain. Can’t see the Zombies making that climb, and yet you can drive to the top (in a 4WD vehicle). The bald mountain gives you a 360 degree field of vision to keep an eye on any mass zombie movements and also to look for signs of other survivors. (Bring a telescope!) You can go on scavenging expeditions to obtain water/food/ammo.
Also, the top is about 75% fenced off (to prevent adventurous tourists from falling off the thing). You could complete and augment the fence to keep the Zs out entirely.
Dammit, I want to write an episode.
I don’t think it ever really said, but given that there was one in the beginning that was little more than arms, a bit of torso and a head I think it is safe to say that these are supernatural zombies that like a bit of brains if they can get them, but can carry on without.
I think that kind is better. 28 Days Later style zombies try hard to kill you, but you just need to stay alive long enough for them to starve, leaving you to live off the remains of civilization.
With these World War Z type zombies, humans are knocked off the top of the food chain and must learn to survive under the constant threat of being eaten.
They do “wear out”, since their cells do not maintain themselves.
I’m hoping that winter will be a big part of the new season. Most zombie movies take place in warm or at least decent weather, but freezing (a major part of World War Z) should be addressed.
So what do you think Jenner whispered to Rick? I assumed it had something to do with the origin of the zombies (that the virus was manmade or whatever).
I’m a bit baffled by all the hate on this ep. I thought it was excellent, and a great climax for S1. The science nits (microscope last ep, explosion this ep, etc.) I’ve learned to generally dismiss as TV shorthand. Yes, it would be better if they got these details right, but as a software guy, I’ve given up on realism. I work with medical images, and the HD visualization was painful – but it was perfect shorthand, couldn’t have been an MRI because of the gun/bullet issue, but a CT over that period would be fatal (not the issue for TS-19).
I thought thematically it closed the season perfectly. At the beginning, a bunch of people just surviving day to day. The CDC encounter forced them to make a conscious choice to survive. Now they’re a group, not just a collection of individuals.
The tension between Shane/Rick/Lori is even higher than in the comic. I think they’re doing a good job of showing that Shane had figured out this new life, taking care of his “new family” and then having the rug pulled out from under him. It’s not really his fault that Rick survived.
Well, the show’s set in Georgia. Even though it does get the occasional snowfall; it’s not cold enough for the zombies to really freeze solid like they could in places like Canada or Sweden or Maine. We could just end up with zombies moving slower than usual and a bunch of characters who’ve no clue how to drive on ice or snow (on roads that nobody’s plowing or salting).
If you want a large scale book spoiler set:
The group is competent - Rick did not lose it in Atlanta - the bag was never lost. Glenn scouted alone, and did not want incompetents with him. He scavenged alone.
There was a brief fuck involving Shane and the Wife. Wife informed Rick of the pregnancy, and the old dude warned Rick early on about Shane not being happy about Rick being there.
And Carl, Rick’s son, shoots Shane, before Shane can kill Rick. But it isn’t a head shot, and Rick goes back at some to put Shane down. Shane is a decidedly non-liar, non-rapey person. He did lose it, but the Darabont scripts make a monster of Shane.
Early on, Rick and his bag o guns yielded a group-wide arms program. The kids were proficient. Even before Rick’s arrival, the group ran patrols and maintained watch.
The gaggle of cliched/hack/Darabont/red shirts didn’t exist. No Meryl, Daryl and his other brother Daryl. Wife-beater and friends show up later, and it is Rick who goes bugshit on Wife-beater.
No CDC, no peri-apocalyptic information, no flashbacks.
As an additional comment, our labs can be safe-guarded without the aid of fuel-air munitions.
The Old dude? and Amy/Andrea - they are shacked up in the Winnie. After Amy dies, Andrea stays with Old Dude until he dies. She puts him down.
In the books, the zombies are not walkers, they’re “Roamers”, mainly, and there are a few other types. The Walking Dead refers to the living, as everybody has “it”, and will come back unless they are put down properly.
Despite all the carping, 70% of poll respondents are voting either “Like” or “Love” so the nitpickers are just overrepresented in the comments.
Or put another way:
Haters gonna hate. ![]()
My guess was that his wife was pregnant.
I liked the glimpse of Day 0. The comics haven’t done that yet. It reminded me of The Stand.