The Walking Dead; 2.01 "What Lies Ahead" (open spoilers)

It might be…possibly related to the comic version of the virus the idea that they ALL have the zombie virus and they will invariably become zombies when they die…well, if they don’t die of head trauma.

They explained this on the Talking Dead. While the walkers use smell to determine if someone is a walker or fresh meat, they aren’t bloodhounds, they don’t track by scent.

Sometimes it all runs together and it’s hard to remember was blah blah blah in the show or the preview for next week. Just sayin. IMO it’s not a spoiler if its in the previews or the commercials, though I know the majority in these parts tend to agree with you.

The more I think about it the more I lean toward the idea that Lori is not pregnant. If that was all it was I doubt Rick would’ve bothered to mention it (or stop himself from mentioning it) on the radio. Also if he hasn’t told Lori by now he’s in deep shit. :wink: The women are sick enough of being marginalized as is; imagine Lori’s reaction to her own husband not bothering to tell her she’s pregnant for days on end. It’s got to be that thing which is being spoilered.

There’s no way they were going to carry all those containers of waters, unless they took that truck as well. Wasting one isn’t so bad.

I liked it, but there were a few times I was yelling at the screen about how stupid they were being. They all drive their own vehicles, which is a huge waste of a precious resource. I don’t see why they’re siphoning when they should be taking a sharpened screwdriver to the gas tank with a motor oil pan underneath, it’s not like those cars will ever drive again. Plus most vehicles made in the last 20 years have anti-siphoning devices installed in them anyway. And Harley’s are annoying enough, it’s pretty stupid driving a motorcycle designed to [del]irritate[/del] announce it’s presence with loud, bracking noises everywhere it goes. What a great way to attract things that want to kill you that are already attracted to noise! They made a huge deal of it when Glenn drove the Mustang with the car alarm going off, but now rip roaring douchebag Harleys are OK? Then there’s the kids wandering off with the search party, they should have stayed at the RV. Shane is obviously taking his bat and ball and going home, to try to get Lori to beg him to stay. Andrea needs to either kill herself or shut the fuck up already.

That said, I am absolutely riveted by the show. I’m fanwanking the church had a backup generator, and the pastor had shut off all the power except the timer for the bells. I actually didn’t mind the Talk with Zombie Jesus, I think it’s completely believable. The shamble of zombies and the chases were epic. I was convinced T-dog was going to die horribly once he sliced his arm open, but I’m glad he survived even though a wound like that can be fatal. I just hope this show doesn’t devolve into As The Zombieland Turns.

You know, that is something that I totally missed in terms of “wtf were they thinking?” Also, did that motorcycle really have the SS insignia on the gas tank? It looked like it, and we were remarking that that didn’t seem to be in Daryl’s nature. Somebody mentioned that they wondered if the bike was originally Merle’s.

And the collective noun for a group of zombies is “stagger” - a stagger of zombies :slight_smile:

I don’t know…none of those explanations make any sense to me. And if indeed Lori is pregnant

…I don’t see how that could be something Rick would fail to mention while talking on the walkie talkie. It was almost as if he wanted to tell Morgan but then decided against it. Based on that, I have to think it was something pertaining to the survival of the human race.

Now I’m also thinking that Rick has information that he’s not sharing with the group. This could explain his future actions and reasoning for doing things a certain way.

Firstly, it’s a Hyundai, not a Honda.

Second, it’s a late-model car, and it doesn’t look very beat-up at all to me. It would be far more comfortable and far more reliable that a 40-year-old Ford Mustang. It would also have better performance and better fuel economy.

Basically, the only advantage the Mustang would have is that it would be easier to repair, due to the fact that its engine is less sophisticated, and makes far less use of electronics than a new car.

Meh … whatever…have you seen the other vehicles they’re driving? Performance and fuel economy don’t appear to be a consideration.
While the “Hyundai” definitely would have better fuel economy, the Mustang has several advantages. It’s faster is much more reliable and serviceable vehicle, and besides it looks cool on TV.

They should all be on scooters or motorcycles - they wouldn’t get stopped by any except the biggest traffic snarls. Then at night, they could all sleep in the trailer of a semi truck or something (or an RV that they find along the highway). Trying to travel with Dale’s constantly breaking-down RV doesn’t make any sense to me.

We already know people who die of non zombie bite ways don’t turn into zombies, the highway was full of dead people who didn’t turn into zombies.

My criticism of the first series was “too much melo, not enough drama”. I see no reason to change my view.

I agree they need a better RV (or similiar vechicle), but all of them traveling by scooter or motorcycle is just stupid. Sure they would move through traffic jams easier. They’d also greatly reduce the amount of gear and supplies they could carry. And there’s no garuntee they’d find a suitable structure for sleeping in every night and they need a hard structure like an RV or trailer to sleep in. Even a car provides more protection than a tend (not to mention that you can start a car up in a hurry and drive; all without leaving it). Of course what they really need to do is avoid the fucking major highways and stick to country roads.
BTW; does anybody know if GPS would still be working at this point? :confused: It’s only been a couple of months since the outbreak.

The biggest thing that bothered me in this episode is the idea that a knife or especially a machete is a good weapon against a zombie. A crowbar, bat, axe handle, etc. would be much better.

Actually I’m sure the praying scenes would have bothered me more but I FF’ed through both of them. ONE overwrought monologue at the beginning of the episode was plenty.

Presumably Sofie is with whatever group shot the deer? Something must have happened to her, since it’s not all that tough to find the interstate when you get lost.

Or a house. I’m guessing that when sticking to major roads they’d be hard pressed to not go by a suitable structure for sleeping and almost infinitely more comfortable and defensible than sleeping in tents or cars at least every 10 minutes. Sleeping outdoors made sense when they were using a semi-remote quarry for refuge but doesn’t really make sense on the road.

And while I can ignore them not seeing a big mob of zombies until it was 100 feet away, even while standing on high ground and using binoculars, the stupidity of the fact that the herd of zombies came from where they’d just been driving two minutes earlier is harder to ignore. Apparently they came out of the woods right there and just then decided to start following the road and then just disappeared once they were 8 feet beyond the people hiding under the cars.

This particularly bugged me because it smacks of being lazy shortcut screenwriting. Have the character make a snarky remark to avoid displaying any real-world knowledge of tracking.

Of course I wouldn’t want the show to be bogged down with lots of technical info, but the professional (and presumably well-paid) script writers couldn’t have just picked up even a Boy Scouts manual and cherry picked one or two real world factoids for verisimilitude?

As it was, the scene played out like this:

Tracker guy: She went this way.

Cop guy: How can you tell?

Tracker: Uhhhh…wizard!!

I thought the zombies came from in front of them. And that there was a rise in the road just ahead of them which might have concealed the zombies’ approach.

Or maybe my mind was just making the zombie attack “work.”

No, they came from behind–they passed the RV first and the hillbilly and black guy last. This was also why they couldn’t just all run to the RV and close it up behind them (though even if that were an option I’m sure they wouldn’t have since it wouldn’t be “suspenseful”).

Maybe the zombies had been gathered in the forest off to the side of the road when the travelers passed by and then stopped. Then they could have shambled out to the road behind them and been relatively close when first sighted. /fanwank

Motorcycles/scooters are a bad idea in general (and I say this as a dedicated, year round, all-weather rider, living in the state where the series is set). Beyond the already mentioned issue with carrying supplies:

-They make too much noise (even scooters can be pretty loud, and that whine carries a long distance).
-They carry too little fuel - most bikes have a 100 to 150 mile range before needing to be refueled, and they can’t carry extra with them easily.
-They require more maintenance than a car - their tires wear out a lot quicker, and god forbid you get a flat.
-They are too easy to crash and cause serious injury even in non-apocalyptic ideal conditions; I consider myself a safe, responsible rider (18 years on the road, with some breaks in between), and have taken the MSF Basic and Advanced courses, and I’ve still had three close calls in the past year that, were I an inexperienced rider, would have been really bad.
-They are severely limited by numerous weather conditions. I have the gear and ride in the rain, but its very taxing and visibility sucks. If I came upon a shamble of zacks in a rainstorm, I am not so sure I could handle the bike and my nerves!
-They require a lot more skill to ride and handle than a car. There is a biker saying: “There are two kinds of bikers…those who have laid their bike down (crashed), and those who are going to.”
-They are not “start 'em and go” vehicles. I’ve owned six different bikes, different makes and models, and the best of them still needed a good four or five minute warm up before being able to run if the morning was even slightly cool.
-Vapor lock: even my radiator cooled bikes have gotten vapor lock from time to time. On my air-cooled bike, in Georgia, in summer? Sometimes I’d have to park and wait a half hour for it to clear up.

I love, love, love my motorcycle…but it is the last vehicle in the world I would choose to bug out with in such a scenario.