I figure that people hammering all day and then a pair of gunshots caught the attention of a wandering shamble. They might have passed by, but our rag-tag band of survivors just got unlucky.
I think they should have planned to use the barn as an emergency walker containment trap. Turn off all the lights in the house and go into silent running. Fire off some noisemakers and have somebody shout at the walkers from the barn. Get them all a-shamblin’ in and simply climb up the ladder to the hayloft, still keeping their attention. Have a buddy stealthily close and chain the barn door. Then you can euthanize them all with a garden weasel from up top and you only have to worry about mopping up the stragglers outside.
They’ve been mentioning that the zombies in Atlanta have been wandering out into the countryside for several weeks now, and zombies seem to usually travel in packs, so I imagine there was just a big pack that wandered out of the city and was near enough to hear the gunshots.
Jenner says the time it takes someone bitten by a zombie takes to zombify takes from hours to days depending on the person. Seems reasonable that the time it takes a dead person to zombify might span a wide range of times as well.
(and yea, this show has some plotholes, but methinks people are trying a little to hard and claiming everything that isn’t shown explicitly on camera is some sort of glaring error)
(and also, I like to think that this whole time on the farm, Jimmy and T-Dog have had a series of wild and crazy adventures that we never hear about while everyone was moping around the farm, which is why we never see them. No reason, I just like to think that.)
RICK: Shane led me on a wild goose chase into the woods so he could kill me and regain the love of my wife and son, so I stabbed him in the heart and then my boy headshot him when he rose as a walker. Oh, and now a horde of walkers is after us and will be here any minute.
JIMMY AND T-DOG SHARE A KNOWING LOOK
T-DOG: You think that’s bad? Let me tell you about OUR day …
They could have their own “Nicky and Paulo” episode next season, though I think the reactions fans had to that Lost episode would probably scare the producers off that idea.
None taken. First, keep in mind, you’re not getting a complete picture of my response to the show. I am not gushing about the things I like because, well I don’t feel like it and you don’t care. When I raise these points, I sincerely hope to be corrected (still waiting). I very much liked the entire season one, and overall, I liked this episode, too. Two, I am bothered by what I’ve seen described as this show’s frustrated potential. With season one, I saw a chance to transcend “genre” tv. Three, I love the genre.
I’m guessing Rick isn’t going to be nearly that succinct.
They need to start treating Carl like an adult, not a child. This is really bugging me - at 12 years old, in this situation, he needs to start hauling his weight (and the adults need to let him).
Yep. The drop served the purpose of making Carl feel guilty, but the writers could just as well have had Carl keep the gun and run off. He’d still feel guilty, and we wouldn’t have to wank about the damn gun, who might find it, whether Darryl might need it, and how Carl managed to get it back.
But Carl feeling guilty went nowhere, unless the writers did it to make us wonder if Carl would chicken out again, when Shane reanimated. Kinda lame, I think.
Maybe the writers have a tight schedule, and would do better if they had more time.
The show has had some moments that resonate, but they’re far too few.
So you’re bothered by something that wasn’t–Ellis is right, Rick double tapped the guys in the bar–but give not a damn about an obvious stupid mistake? I mentioned Chekov’s gun earlier. This is an example. The dropped gun is simply a plot hole. It might not bother you. You might not care (though you seem to care about some incosistency, just ones that aren’t). It’s a plot hole nonetheless.
How is it a plot hole? The kid has the gun later, so obviously he went back and got the gun. Just because every thing isn’t expliticlty shown on screen doesn’t make it a plot hole.
I mean, we haven’t seen some of the characters eat since the CDC. Why aren’t the starving to death? Plot hole?
And I’m pretty sure your using the term “Chekov’s gun” wrong.
No, just a fanwanker. Or maybe they showed in in the same episode where Hershel forbid Otis from carrying a handgun.
Like I said, why have him drop it if you’re not going to use the drop? Bad writing. I’ve seen so many flat out wrong suppositions in this thread, stuff that anyone paying minimum attention knows just are wrong–hell, you did it just a moment ago–but then I popint what it s glaringly obvious hole and some sophisticate tries to explain to me that they don’t have to show me everything that happnes. Like I’m some rube that could barely figure out the tv set.
I don’t agree the dropped gun is a plot hole - Carl went and got the gun before going to talk to Shane. The writers on this show are terribly inconsistent - brilliant at times and hacks at times, but I’m not willing to pin this one on them.
You’re probably right - I guess Lori needs to get the memo.
The hat has been bugging me since Rick gave it to him, and I’m not even sure why. Maybe because it was part of a police uniform, and Carl doesn’t have the right to wear it? I don’t know.
This is an unbelievably stupid comparison and one I addressed in the last thread. These aren’t incidental acts we’re talking about. These are plot points. The director took time to focus our attention on the fact the gun dropped by isolating it in a shot.
I’m not misusing the term Chekov’s gun, which refers generally to foreshadowing. The “rule” derived from it is: you don’t put a gun on the table (or drop it on the woods) in the first act unless you’re going to use it in the third. The fact that Carl dropped the gun and went back is not as big of a deal as the fact that they called attention to him dropping it but then fail to show how he retrieved it. This is an imbalance in the writing. They might as well just write in a new character (call him Poochie) and have no one address the fact that his arrival is new. It wouldn’t take a rocket scientist to know he came from somewhere, and they probably made their introductions off screen. The story is told onscreen.
