The guy in the poncho, was that the same guy Daryl & Aaron were following?
Daryl’s motorcycle seems pretty loud for stealthily searching for people. I know they park the vehicles and hike out in the woods a ways, but it’s still pretty loud.
I understand Deanna’s reaction. Geez, she just lost her son and then sees her husband killed right in front of her. Plus, Rick mentioned he was wondering how many Alexandrians he’d have to kill for them to get it. That was Deanne showing us she gets it now. Next season she’ll really understand when the Wolves show up.
Seemed to me that way. The guy was out in the fields then just disappears. Then they tell him to go reset the traps, or at least that’s what I thought they told him to do. It didn’t look like they had him tied up or anything like that and they seemed to be conversing with him as if they knew him.
I will admit that I don’t fully watch everything that goes on so I might have missed something.
Group “W” (Arlo Guthrie’s Alice’s Restaurant, anyone?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0a6iWHSWbA ), besides killing the living, and carving W’s in walker foreheads, seems to collect walkers? Why? I have no idea. The Governor collected walkers, Michonne had her own walkers, and Hershel collected walkers. Maybe, if you collect a whole set, you win free french fries?
I don’t believe Red Poncho guy was a member of Group W. He had been wandering alone and, I assume, had been captured, or trapped, by the sociopaths. Both pairs of Group W sociopaths told their intended victims, Morgan and Red Poncho guy, to “stay still” just before they delivered, or attempted to deliver, the death blow. Morgan suspected a trick, RPG didn’t seem to recognize the symbolism (but his hands were tied behind him).
Yeah, they leave so many things unsaid, we have to fill in half the dialogue.
When Rick walked past the three guys standing guard and just says “hey guys.” That would have been a great time to stop and chat, since these guys are going to be deciding your fate. “Hey, sorry about last night guys. But you know, he was beating his wife and I’ve under a bit of stress the last couple years you know how it is sometimes.”
They didn’t tell him to reset the trap; we saw them reset the trap themselves during the scene. (Playing the music to corral the walkers back in the trucks.)
Then I guess it seems just a bit too convenient for me. Guy is being tracked by Daryl and Aaron, he loses them, they end up in the trap set by the “W” gang. Then they capture red poncho and take him back just to kill him right there? Seems like a huge waste, they weren’t going to make Morgan walk anywhere, they were going to kill him right there.
I got out of it that red poncho was to lure people in to the trap. The “W” group got pissed that he failed and killed him. It seems strange that a lone guy gets taken after being out there for a couple of years, especially by a couple of guys who just got the hell beat out of them.
What makes you think the guy had been around a couple years? he was another wanderer like Morgan. It was just some dude that they found just like Daryl and Aaron found him. It wasn’t terribly complicated.
I’m just guessing but it would be easier for Group W to convince a victim to walk (miles?) to their execution spot, than trying to control a walker, or drag a dead body, to the same spot.
In Morgan’s case, the sociopaths didn’t have ammo for their firearm(s). Would that have effected their decision? Maybe.
As I understand SAG rules, actors with lines (a conversation with Rick) are paid more than actors who just nod and grunt (when Rick walks by).
Normally, it would make more sense for Rick to make his case to everyone who would be attending the evenings meeting. OTOH, the writers/director knew the outcome of the meeting, so why waste airtime making Rick’s case over and over.
I am hoping for some kind of explanation in the next season of the Wolves’ methods. It seems to me that stealth robbery of survivors would be less labor intensive than catching and maintaining traps swarming with snappy Walkers. True, I guess smashing a wall and sending the zombies in can serve as a distraction, but I fail to see the point in monogramming them.
I am inclined to forgive the patent idiocy of Alexandria’s leadership. She doesn’t know beans about the savage world outside, but having lost her son and husband in less than a week, perhaps she is seeing the light. Although not enforcing some SERIOUS discipline over the steeple position and the gate implies some major stupid on these people’s parts.
Where is Porch Dick getting his bottled beer? Is someone in Alexandria brewing it? And why hasn’t he drunk the surrounding countryside dry? It has been a minimum of two years since there’s been any grocery distribution system left, much less liquors…
The idea I got was that Gabriel has come off his hinges, to some extent, and that he didn’t even notice that the gate was open when he walked off. I could be wrong, though.
It did not surprise me a bit that Deanna did not go looking for Rick. She plainly meant to toss him out, and his absence at the meeting strengthened her hand… at least until things went off the rails.
In the original comic, it is made fairly clear that Porch Dick is beating his wife, and that his neighbors KNOW this, but turn a blind eye because they’re scared to lose their doctor. This is less obvious in the TV show.
It’s fun to say “Porch Dick.”
Aaron makes a speech at one point about not giving up. I find this interesting, because if they’d just given up on Red Poncho, they wouldn’t have fallen into the trap at the vegetable distribution joint. True, they get out, but with unexpected help. And after all that, Red Poncho still gets killed.
If our heroes had communicated with each other better, a lot of crap could have been avoided. Important lesson here.
I agree that it’s easier to have your victim walk to where you want him, THEN kill him; I kind of figured that’s what they were going to do with Morgan. Although I wonder why the second guy tried to bash his head in if they’re collecting active zombies…
I see where you’re going with that. The only problem is that if red poncho guy’s job was to lure Daryl and Aaron into the trap, he succeeded with flying colors.
He was saying how the entire reason they got caught in that trap is because they gave up looking for red poncho guy. It was Aaron who convinced Daryl to give up, after which they went in to stockpile supplies and got caught.
“If we go in there, we’re giving up on finding him.”
…and while I’m thinking about it, how many people live in Alexandria? In the original source material, it was tens of people, multiple families at least. In the TV show, it seems to be Rick’s Group and maybe ten or fifteen other people. They couldn’t hire more extras?
In previous episodes, we learn that our Scavenging Crew lost four people last month. Plainly, this is because the leader was a douchebag and his second was a coward, but DANG, people, nobody questions a 66% monthly causalty rate? And they’ve been keeping Porch Dick in liquor this way for TWO YEARS?
Yeah maybe it was handled better in the comics, but Cliche Abusive Dad seemed kind of contrived. The writers knew how they wanted it to end, and worked backwards to make it fit.
Well, they have to pay about a 100 extras for the zombie dance parties. I wonder how much they make?
I wasn’t clear if the two guys that Morgan trapped in the car at the beginning was the same two guys that killed RPG at the end. Did anyone see their faces?
One of the actors outside his house (doing an absolutely lazy and terrible job guarding him…seriously why were they there and armed if not to follow him)later spoke at the meeting. That guy was already getting paid to talk.
Regarding Rick why rick didn’t stop to chit chat and make his case–Rick isn’t politicking. He’s either taking it by a speech to all of them or taking it by force.
I think they did a fair job of explaining that the “forum” was open but not everyone was going to be there. Did we even see Aaron’s partner there?
