The Walking Dead; 7.08 "Hearts Still Beating" (open spoilers)

I don’t see it that way. Negan’s modus operandi is to punish a random (innocent) person for the actions of those who defy him. If he’d just killed Rosita, someone else would eventually decide to sacrifice himself or herself for the good of the community. This is what Rosita planned. Sure, she’d get killed; but she would have taken out Negan. As it turned out, she didn’t take out Negan. And instead of her losing her life for her actions, someone she cared about was killed. So any future ‘freedom fighter’ now knows that his or her actions will result in someone else taking the punishment.

Why doesn’t Negan leave a garrison of his men in each conquered village? Make it a lot harder for them to rebel and they’d have better intel about each place. And why doesn’t each person carry a sealed bag of zombie guts, to smear on themselves should they be surrounded by walkers?

I agree with you 100%. My main point that in the real-world, leaving an assassin alive and hoping they been cowed into submission is probably not very wise. And I suspect that most real-world tyrants would not take the chance. But in comic book/tv/movie logic it is pretty commonplace (for a variety of ‘reasons’, I was just trying to be funny with my ‘reason’) and so acceptable (to me anyway).

Because he hasn’t read the Evil Overlord list? :slight_smile:

One of the more interesting scenes was the redheaded savior.

She seemed awfully resigned to her fate.

We will probably never know much about her but for some reason my impression was that deep down she’s was like the runaway a couple of weeks ago. She knows there’s no escape from Negan, and so this gave her a way out.

Any thoughts?

I was wondering why she didn’t cut and run while Michonne was looking at the distant Saviour crowd. Maybe getting shot while drawing Saviour attention to Michonne has got to be better than passively asking to be murdered and helpfully providing a silencer. So I think you’re right and the redhead was suicidal. That’s the only way that scene makes sense.

There was a silencer.

Getting innocents killed is a better way to discourage future assassins than simply killing people with no hope. Rosita thought she had nothing to live for, that’s why she was perfectly ok with a suicide mission to kill Negan. He showed her and everyone else who might think like her that their actions will harm others, not themselves. It makes a whole lot of sense if you understand the mentality of people like Rosita.

No, I get that. What I’m talking about is not really about the show. I’m saying in the real-world tyrants don’t leave attempted assassins alive. They might both kill an innocent (e.g., their entire family) to discourage a future would-be assassin and kill or imprison the assassin forever because there’s no way your going to leave an assassin running around.

That’s all. Full stop. Everything else was just me trying (and failing apparently) to be funny.

We don’t know what’s going to happen to Eugene. I doubt he’s going to be killed. It wouldn’t make sense to take him away from Alexandria to kill him. It would have been death by Lucille on the spot if he was going to die. He may end up being Negan’s shoe-shine boy.

Which I mentioned in the same sentence you only quoted the first part of, and which Michonne didn’t know about until Red told her.

We do know; it was perfectly clear that Negan was taking Eugene back to their HQ to make bullets for them.

Sorry. Missed it, as I was looking at the ‘drawing attention’ part.

N/m

Redundancy.

What did the note Daryl kept looking at say?

Good episode, lots of tension, new ways of weaponizing zombies to protect your stash, hand-waving explanation about why the Saviors don’t go into the Kingdom.

And now I see why the writers had to have Carol leave and spend some time in graveyard house. Because if Negan had asked Carol to make him some lemonade, Rosita wouldn’t have had to use her bullet :slight_smile:

I think it said something like “go now”.

It did say ‘Go now.’ On the back there appeared to be a (motorcycle?) key and what looked like a match.

I have this image of Carol chasing Negan through Alexandria with Lucille in hand and Negan yelling “I’m sorry, ow I’m sorry, ow I’m sorry, ow I’m so very very sorry ow”.

I keep saying this, but as far as post-apocalyptic warlords go, Negan has actually been quite reasonable.

He made Carl spaghetti after Carl killed two of his men while trying to kill him.
He killed a conniving jerk who tried to have Rick killed so he could take his place.
He continually leaves Rick alive (as opposed to replacing him with a toady like Spencer).
His response to nearly being assassinated and having his favorite bat damaged was to randomly kill one person, but leave the assassin alive.
They let what’s his face go with just a beating after finding the “Fuck You” note.
Sure, I get that Negan wants people producing for him. But it seems to me that lining up Rick, Carl, Michione, Rosita, Spencer, Fuck You beat down guy and a couple of other troublemakers and just killing them would eliminate all his troubles.

Also, what is Negan a forensic ballistics expert now? Do hand loaded reused 9mm shells somehow look different from factory-made and used once?
Also, how does Negan distinguish between “his” people at his compound and various outputs, vs. his vassal communities like Hilltop, Alexandria and the Kingdom (which seems to have it’s own special deal anyway). Like is it any better living under his “points” system than one of the semi-autonomous towns?
Why were there so many zombies in that lake with the house boat in the middle of nowhere? Were they throwing a big party when the zombies attacked?

I think that’s pretty much it. She had checked out and this was here way of providing some small bit of help to Michione. Although I wonder what would have happened if Michione just tossed her out of the car.

Although what did she show Michione? Was it their main compound or some large checkpoint? Even on my 40’ 1080 HDTV all I saw were a bunch of black dots on the horizon.

I got the impression, based on the comment from Rick, that they were placed there by the person living on the boat to keep looters away. I would suspect a combination of some sort of float or life jacket and an anchor to keep them from drifting out of place.