Well I was a bit of a scavenger just before… I found my nephew’s Happy Meal leftovers in the car. I had some left-over lemonade, fries and a pickle. People were shocked and said I might get hepatitis. I said that I don’t eat everyone’s left-overs.
This is really more of a Pit-type comment, so don’t use them in here again.
Ok I see… sorry.
How?
Through saliva I guess…
“…experts view the risk of transmitting this disease through saliva as extremely low,…”
The people who are shocked are unclear on viral hepatitis.
Hepatitis isn’t spread through saliva. “Extremely low” is wiggle-speak for “there are some cases whose transmission we can’t determine, and maybe we can identify the virus in saliva, but we’re pretty sure it’s in counts too low to be transmitted.” While the origin of some cases of viral hepatitis can’t be identified, this is (in my experience as a counselor) about not remembering or not reporting potential routes of transmission. I don’t see evidence in the reports that there’s a big as-yet-unidentified way to transmit these diseases.
The article you link is about hepatitis C. It talks about about viral* detection *in saliva, not about transmission. Last I checked, CDC knows of no cases of hepatitis C transmitted by toothbrush, razor, or nail clippers, though as the link notes, a toothbrush (or anything that clips, cuts, or has a blade) might transmit blood. CDC calls these “inefficient vectors.” CDC considers transmission between household members to be low (unless other factors are at play–but just sharing a living space with someone is a dubious risk factor). Even getting contaminated blood splashed in your eye is low risk. CDC doesn’t mention saliva at all on its FAQ for professionals (which is up to date).
Hepatitis B also is not transmitted by saliva.
The form of hepatitis conceivably spread by food is hepatitis A, which is acquired by ingesting food or water containing hepatitis A-contaminated feces. I suppose you could get this by eating a family member’s fast food discards, but when you consider the number of people who share plates, forks, straws, leftovers, the rest of the children’s food, french fries with boyfriends, etc., I can’t imagine this is a high transmission method unless a child with hepatitis A is putting poopy hands on its happy meal. It’s a possibility, but are your friends shocked that parents eat vegetables that children have bitten and discarded, or “clean up” their plates, or share a burrito with them?
Dumpster diving/trash picking is a way one might possibly get hepatitis, but this has more to do with other contaminants in garbage cans and trash heaps, like medical waste, feces, syringes, etc. The bigger risk here is getting cut by something contaminated by hepatitis A or B.
The great majority of US children are now vaccinated against hepatitis A and B. The number of US cases of hepatitis A has gone down 95% since the vaccine was introduced.
John - I don’t have the first damn clue how you do your job, or how you survive in the real world, or anything about you other than what you post here on this message board. And I don’t care. It’s not relevant to the discussion.
I can judge you and your abilities SOLELY by what you post here. If someone posts a whole pile of ludicrous nonsense, and then says, “Oh, but in real life I’m a professor of philosophy at Cambridge”, I’m not just going to pretend they didn’t post all that ludicrous nonsense. Incidentally, taking that person’s own word for their real-life intellectual achievements is, ironically, exactly the same fallacy as believing testimonials published in the front of the book. But that’s neither here nor there.
All I can say is that here, in this thread and on this board, your comments have repeatedly and consistently shown a glaring lack of critical thinking skills and rational thought. If, in other parts of your life, you actually have Steven Hawking-like abilities to analyze the universe clearly and logically, well, all I can say is that it would be super nice if you used some of those skills when you write posts here.
But he doesn’t; he actually cried in front of his boss when they wanted him to take on additional projects. Obviously his work ability is about on par with his ability to choose and stick with a diet.
I’d forgotten that one; nothing is more potent than warrior tears.
That was one time for about a minute or two. Otherwise I do my job.
What about the 100+ Amazon reviews where the first one was voted as “helpful” by 200+ people and the reviewer had 1000+ reviews? BTW I just thought that it was a bit unusual to have 3 and a half pages of praise at the front. That was my main point.
What about my counter-arguments that you keep on ignoring such as the one I just used in this post?
Smeghead:
Most/a lot of your objections seem to just be about the praise at the start of the book. That doesn’t mean that the diet doesn’t work. You could have been saying how my quotes of the book are false.
Smeghead:
Now I remember how you kept on saying this diet is bad because to be healthy people should “eat sensibly, avoid fad diets, and exercise”.
BTW what about a several decades ago when the vegan diet wasn’t very popular… is that a fad diet?
Perhaps initially but what if I give up on some beliefs? Would that be an example of critical thinking? BTW a lot of the reason I post here is because I’m unsure of something not because I think I know facts that I can fully back up.
Veganism has nothing to do with health, it has to do with the moral beliefs of the eater. Getting all the proper nutrients and calories as a vegan is difficult, but since we do know what those nutrients are and what contains them, an observant vegan can still live a healthy life. It takes more effort to accomplish, but in end result they’re eating a standard, scientifically supported diet. Many of them are probably doing a better job of it, simply because it’s easy to suffer malnutrition if you aren’t very careful.
An example of critical thinking would be recognizing that in order to show off your muscles, you have to have muscles.
Though part of the diet is about getting muscles, it is also about losing fat. As I’ve said many times my goal is to have a flat stomach. No muscles are required to do that.
An example of critical thinking is also realising that I did not in fact have showing off muscles as a goal and so having muscles isn’t required. Then realising that my actual goal is to have a flat stomach which doesn’t require muscles.
Another example is to look at a poster’s message and see what incorrect assumptions they’ve made and say what is the case.
Sorry - I have no desire to re-read through this thread for fear of losing my will to live. Which “arguments” have you used that I have ignored? Just give me a list.
Because as far as I can recall, it’s gone something like this:
You - a bunch of illogical nonsense
Me - You have a lack of critical thinking skills
You - Oh, yeah? How can I hold down a job then?
Me - I have no idea, and don’t really care, because it’s irrelevant to what you’ve posted here on the boards.
If there are some nuances I’ve glossed over, fill me in and I’ll do my best to care enough to respond, assuming there’s enough sense included to make a logical response possible.
If you’re too thin and have no muscles, you will get a bulge as your stomach shrinks around your internal organs. Even if you don’t have them developed to 6-pack level, muscles are necessary for a good look. Without muscles, it doesn’t matter what diet you have, you’ll either look dumpy or creepy regardless of what your body fat percentage is.