The Warrior Diet

So…nobody then. Cool.

Point of order regarding Nero. He was only the fifth emperor. Saying “No Roman Emperor was obese until Nero” is true but probably not too relevant.

Lot of replies for a thread titled The Warrior Diet that no one wants to read.

I know. What a dick.

So lots of replies in this thread means lots of people want to learn about The Warrior Diet? C’mon, you’re smarter than that. I think.

On Amazon the Kindle edition has 168 reviews with an average score of 4.1 stars… do you think that is a scam? I mean are those testimonials on Amazon fake?

His point is that a lot of Romans used to be on what he calls a Warrior Diet and they had good bodies in their artwork then they went off of it and started having crap bodies like Nero.

More about the ancient Egyptians:
http://www.wellcomecollection.org/explore/sickness--health/topics/obesity/images.aspx?view=wall-relief-of-an-obese-man

If you think those mean something significant there’s not much this thread is going to do to help you.

You know that whole fighting ignorance thing? It’s not really working out for you.

So what are you disagreeing about? Did the Romans portrayed in artwork as lean and muscular not actually eat what he says they ate (in great detail [not yet quoted]) in The Warrior Diet book? Did fat emperors like Nero actually have that diet too? Or not?

For the first review (4 stars) it says 227 out of 244 people found it “helpful”. I guess you don’t think that is “significant” either?

On Amazon it is top 3 in the kindle Martial Arts section:

And top 22 in the kindle Diets section:

So do you think Amazon customer reviews, average scores and how many people think they are “helpful” are meaningless even when quite large numbers of them are involved?

Can you even admit that many people have found the book to be helpful - even if it just involved the placebo effect or something? I mean do you think there is any reason behind them giving it mainly good reviews? Are they telling the truth or are they pretending that they found the book helpful?

1.Artwork is not a representation of reality, not only can it have cultural baggage attached(baby dicks seen as masculine) but what great leader is going to have them carve anything but a flawless man god for his likeness?

2.Got any proof the diet radically changed? What would have caused this? For the entire society?

Do a google image search for “greek statues”. Their lean muscular appearances look very realistic to me. Or is that just a fluke based on their imaginations?

From the book:
“Julius Caesar was in his late fifties… he was still lean and in good shape”

See also my posts about Egyptian bodies in art - how they DIDN’T portray people as lean and muscular in their artwork.

Their penises look realistic to me too. When not stimulated penises can get quite small. What about when they had sex - if their penises got erect that might be a turn off because it is not “masculine”? :confused:

http://www.wellcomecollection.org/explore/sickness--health/topics/obesity/images.aspx?view=wall-relief-of-an-obese-man
Yes sometimes art isn’t accurate:
“It was not unusual for pharaohs and wealthy people to have themselves portrayed with rolls of fat about their abdomen since this indicated prosperity and success. However, the skin folds of mummies such as those of the pharaohs Amenophis III (reigned 1386-1349 BCE, Dynasty XVIII) and Ramesses III (reigned 1182-1151, dynasty XX) showed that they were immensely fat even though their portraits do not depicts them as such.”
Artwork isn’t the only thing that is used to work out the body type of those people. Like I said there is literature about Nero’s true appearance.

For a lot of the society. The book talks a lot about this. A major thing is the change from one big meal in the day to lots of meals as well as the types of foods eaten. See what I’ve quoted so far so that I don’t need to keep quoting things.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17782896&postcount=124
He talks about exactly what foods the different classes of people ate and when.

From the opening of the chapter 3 “The Undereating Phase”:

About thinking too much and being “dangerous”…

I told my very health-conscious sisters about the diet and things it was saying about ancient slaves, etc. They already eat the same kind of diet that it promotes including organic foods, grass fed beef and kefir. They were surprised about the food timing though.

Sigh. First off, publishers have been doing the “fake Amazon review” thing for a long, long time now. Secondly, even if they’re not fake, there are plenty of gullible people like yourself out there that are eager to convince themselves that this magic diet has done all the work and are thrilled to tell others about it. That doesn’t mean they’re right.

But most of all, you seem to have a complete and total lack of critical thinking skills. You have no understanding of how to analyze evidence or draw logical conclusions. You’re trying to figure out the efficacy of a modern fad diet by looking at Greek statues and Egyptian hieroglyphics, for hell’s sake. Those couldn’t be less relevant. We have mountains of evidence from modern scientific studies as to how to stay healthy. They all say the same thing: eat sensibly, avoid fad diets, and exercise. But you are so desperate to avoid that exceedingly obvious conclusion that you are grasping at any and every imaginary straw you can think of to justify your denials.

This why there are so many eagles and so few seagulls.

This. Most of JC’s posts make my eyes hurt. To his credit he IS looking at historical illustrations…