The well balanced, intelligent Q adherent

God : “Even I have my limits. YOU where supposed to deal with this piece of shit”

It seems some of them are starting to get disgruntled:

A QAnon supporter has penned an open letter to former President Donald Trump after countless predictions made by the conspiracy movement failed to materialize…

Warren specifically decried the failure of “Red October,” the false belief among conspiracy theorists that Trump’s enemies would be arrested en masse…

Warren goes on to discuss health issues currently facing his wife while begging Trump to release secret medical technology known as “MED BEDS.” QAnon supporters have long believed that highly-advanced medical beds often seen in sci-fi movies have not only been hidden from the public, but can cure any and all diseases…

To prolong this diversion just a bit: tulipomania investors weren’t motivated by getting into and out of the tulip market so as to make a killing while they could. Most of them genuinely believed that the bulbs they traded in were worth the ridiculous prices paid, and were bankrupted when their stock plummeted in value. Just as in subsequent bubbles, lots of people were badly burned because they thought the good times would last indefinitely.

Mike Dash’s book on the subject is a good read.

As for QAnon, failed prophecies don’t matter. The signs were misinterpreted but so what? These prophecies will come to pass, for sure.

And if not, a new, far-seeing visionary will arise and command our devotion.

The Qult has a loooooong way to go before they even approach the Jehovah’s Witnesses record for rationalizing missed dates and prophecies.

And where are all the sane people that think they are Napoleon the 14th?

Well, there’s this.

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Anyone who proposes a radical conspiracy theory must be prepared to answer the following two questions satisfactorily:

  • You do know that there is such a thing as paranoid schizophrenia?
  • How do you distinguish between a real conspiracy and paranoid schizophrenia?

One likely result: They dig in and double-down in their beliefs. This is exactly the phenomenon known as Cognitive Dissonance. The theory of cognitive dissonance was actually established by an investigation of the failed prophecy of a doomsday cult:

I knew all that, but I still found it humorous. :slight_smile:

That was really sad for me to read. As someone who’s wife suffers from a chronic illness, I can understand the attractiveness of believing that some time soon there is going to be made available a device or treatment that will make her all better, and the disappointment that comes with not having those beliefs realized.

It reminded me while these crazy beliefs do invite ridicule, and the resultant political manifestations and manipulation deserves our scorn, the people who have most been hurt by the Qanon conspiracy are the believers themselves.

In the Related Work section, an analysis of QAnon said it filled 4 of 5 Conditions for increased fervour after disconfirmation. The end part was kind of chilling.

The first four conditions for increased fervour after disconfirmation are fulfilled with QAnon faithful, only the last condition of continuing social support is the question. As of April 2021, QDrops have stopped but with the Internet these believers will find each other and will continue to socially support each other. Vyse states that all depends on if Donald Trump reemerges or is marginalized with no other “demagogic leader emerges”.

So the only way to fix QAnons is to find somebody just as obnoxious as Trump to lead them, hee hee.

They need look no further than djtj. Same genes and everything.

No, and that’s why it would be smart to be a bit circumspect for a little bit.

Do Jehovah’s Witnesses set specific dates? I was best friends with a JW when I was a teenager and read their stuff out of curiosity. I never saw a single specific prediction - literally not one. It was just generic “the Lord is coming sometime fairly soon” stuff. They said things had really accelerated starting in 1914 but did not promise a particular day when anything in particular would occur. Maybe they used to do that but gave up?

Did they ever. They’re probably best known for “Millions Alive Today Will Never Die!”, and for retconning the Second Coming of Christ into an invisible, spiritual Second Coming.

Well, could be true. I plan on living forever. So far, so good!

One way to ensure a long life is to squander your life savings. You will surely live to regret it.

But were you alive in 1914, which is when that prophecy was supposed to be in effect? (They’ve retconned that a few times, since).

By the way, this is a better link for a summary of their (failed) prophecies. Since the 1990s, they seem to have finally given up on specific, falsifiable prophecies and predictions.

Also a great album by Tortoise :slight_smile:

Oh, they used to give that whole “no one knows the day or hour” *wink wink* speech but circa mid '70s the Watchtower was chock full of speculative articles, all of which emphasized that the generation which saw the beginning of the end, meaning those who were not only ALIVE in 1914, but capable of discernment (so no babies or small children) would witness the actual start of Armageddon and the whole nine yards. Get stood up in front of Jesus and judged, all that claptrap. It amuses me greatly to see just how much they’ve walked all that back, especially since one of the earlier dates had people standing up on hills in white robes carrying suitcases FFS. JWs are pretty much nutcases.

When I was a young teen, I read one of the JW books that explicitly gave the year of 1975 for Armageddon. I remember this vividly, because I was first quite excited about it as a devoutly religious youngster. Months later I became horrified, because I had decided that I liked the world as it is.

I have read that designating a year like that created so many problems for them when it didn’t happen that they haven’t been so explicit since then.