The White Sox - A Brutal Truth

And, going by memory, the team they finally got their first win against was the White Sox.

A hopeful precedent for the White Sox:

The team holding the major league record for most consecutive losses in a season (26), the 1889 Louisville Colonels, went 27-111-2 that year.

BUT:

In 1890, the Colonels finished first in the American Association with a sterling 88-44-4 record, and tied the Brooklyn Bridegrooms in the World Series, 3-3-1.

Who knows, the White Sox could be in for a fabulous rebound too.

The Ravens, Texas, and Nationals didn’t move into a city as the second team to compete with an existing team, and Los Angeles just isn’t comparable at all. Metro LA is twice the size of Chicagoland. Chicago is more comparable to a place like Dallas or Philadelphia, not LA.

As with all things, whether one thinks Chicago is a good place for a second team if the White Sox become the Nashville Dickheads, it doesn’t matter unless a billionaire or a billionare corporation willing to spend umpteen dollars and get the city to spend umpteen dollars is willing to do so. If the next two billionaires are in Vancouver and Austin, the teams will be placed there; what we believe the best cities to place a team in isn’t super relevant.

I don’t think the White Sox are going to move but logic doesn’t always enter into these things. The A’s alleged move to Las Vegas is already an embarrassing fiasco.

All of this. The Chargers, much like the A’s and Raiders in Oakland, had been going back-and-forth with the city of San Diego for years over renovations to their stadium, and/or a new stadium. They didn’t go to Los Angeles because the people of LA were eager to get another relocating team (beyond the Rams), and they didn’t go because the league wanted a second team there (league management and the other teams really didn’t). They went entirely because team ownership was chasing money, and they wound up in LA because they were on the clock, and had few good options for where to move, once ownership had committed to leaving San Diego.

As a result, the Chargers left behind what had been a loyal fan base in San Diego (most of whom, feeling justifiably jilted, aren’t fans any longer), and have gone to a new market where they have relatively few fans, and where they are stuck playing second-fiddle to another team, who is also their landlord at their stadium.

It was an incredibly dumb-ass move, done solely because ownership was frustrated by their stadium situation in San Diego, and expected the city to pay a large share of the cost in renovating it.

I have every expectation the Chargers will end up back in San Diego. The LA move was dreadful decision, and sooner or later, a stadium will be built in San Diego.

One of the reasons I’d love to see MLB expand a lot - like, six more teams - is just to reduce the mount of this stadium argument and relocation bullshit.

The White Sox just lost number 21 in a row, tying the AL record. They are just two short of the modern MLB record. The projection is still 38-124.

With Tommy Pham gone and Yoan Moncada on the 60-day IL, the White Sox don’t have a single player on the roster, not one, with an OPS+ at or above 100. The team wins leader, Erick Fedde, has 7 wins but plays for a different team now.

The White Sox have thirteen pitchers - thirteen - who have lost at least one game, but haven’t won one. Their king is Michael Sirotka, who is 0-10. Combined they are 0-36. Even without them the White Sox would still have a losing record.

They only gave up four hits tonight, but five runs, thanks to surrendering nine walks. :stuck_out_tongue:

Too late to edit: the A’s scored their first run in the first inning without a hit: walk, walk, walk, and sacrifice fly. :stuck_out_tongue:

Two other painful factoids regarding the Sox, from this SI article (written prior to Monday night’s loss):

  • If you were to remove the current 21-game losing streak, as well as their 14-game losing streak from earlier in the season, from their record, the Sox’ record would be 27-53 – that’s a winning percentage of .338, which would still be the lowest winning percentage in MLB this season.
  • This is Pedro Grifol’s second season managing the White Sox; they finished at 61-101 last year, and are currently at 27-88. Thus, Grifol’s composite win-loss is 88-189, meaning that he’s 101 games below .500 for his managerial career.

WHAT?! That is nightmarish!

On a positive note, their wins leader is Erick Fedde, who is 7-4 with an ERA of 3.11.

Of course, Fedde has been traded to the Cardinals.

Good Lord, that’s like 25% of the team’s total wins on the season. I’m sure we won’t miss him. :flushed:

The 1972 Phillies only won 59 games… but Steve Carlton won 27 of them.

Imagine if they’d traded HIM midseason.

Reminds me of Branch Rickey / Ralph Kiner.

I’m not familiar with him but, how great do you have to be to win 27 games for a team that ended up 23 games below 500?!

Lefty Carlton is one of the greatest of all time. Maybe inner circle Hall of Fame.

4 Cy Young awards. 329-244 Record. 4136 Ks.

He was also briefly on the White Sox, in 1986, when he went 4-3 3.69 ERA.

Definitely. From about '68 to '83, he was consistently one of the best pitchers in the game. I remember reading articles about him when I was in high school (so, probably early '80s), where they talked about some of his then-unorthodox, and difficult, training techniques, many of them adapted from martial arts – I distinctly remember reading about him exercising his arm and wrist by rotating his wrist while he had his arm in a container full of rice. It obviously worked for him; he continued to be a very effective pitcher into his late 30s.

Carlton also famously didn’t talk to the press for many years, and largely retreated from baseball, and public life, after he retired, which may contribute to today’s fans not knowing as much about him.

Steve Carlton was a greater pitcher than Nolan Ryan, and his 1972 is one of the greatest seasons a pitched has ever had. He was ludicrously dominant.

It’s not a coincidence that with him as the ace, the Phillies did end up becoming a terrific team and finally winning a World Series (in a year in which Carlton was again the greatest pitcher in baseball.) Of course they had Mike Schmidt too.

Bill James once did a little study in which the question was “what is the most top heavy, dominated by two players, World Series winner of all time?” and before I ever read the article I thought “It’s the 1980 Phillies. Carlton and Schmidt.” And I was right. The 1980 Phillies won the World Series with Steve Carlton, Mike Schmidt, and 23 of their friends.

One more sad note from Monday night’s game against the A’s: attendance was a whopping 4,971 people.