The White Sox - A Brutal Truth

They’re not even the worst team not named the White Sox. Miami and Colorado are battling for the second-worst record; both have 52 wins. Angels have the fourth worst, with 58 wins.

We try to be the best at whatever we do, and “whatever we do” is usually lose. :neutral_face:

As bad as the White Sox are this year, there are teams that are worse.

The San Marino soccer team just won its first match in 20 years.

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Liechtenstein will never hear the end of the jokes and barbs. LOL

I was watching the Blue Jays - Angels games a few weeks ago and found myself just blown away that the Angels were more than 20 games ahead of the Sox because holy shit the Angels are a miserable team.

Beyond “miserable” is “historically bad”, and that is the reality at this point. In all honestly, I can’t see how they will lose anything less than 125 games, and there is a distinct possibility it could be worse.

I think 125 is the basement. They have 21 games left, and to lose 126 would require finishing 4-17, which is actually below their winning percentage, which itself is unlucky; their Pythagorean is seven games better than their win-loss record.

I’ll predict 39-123. I think they’ll have a few surprisingly tolerable series. They get to play the Angels six times.

Some more fun White Sox facts:

  1. According to Baseball Reference, the team’s fifth best player is Davis Martin, a pitcher who has only appeared in seven games. BR’s claim that Martin has substantial value is dubious to me, though, when you consider the fact that the White Sox have lost every game he played in.
  2. There have only been five occasions all year in which the White Sox won two or more games in a row.
  3. At this rate the White Sox will score just 496 runs. It has been a VERY long time since a team failed to score 500 runs in a full season. In 1972, five teams failed to do so, but a few of them still would have had a strike not knocked a few games off the schedule.
  4. With Tommy Pham gone the White Sox have only two everyday players with on base percentages above .300. With Paul De Jong gone they have no regular players with a slugging percentage above .400.

Given the miserable run support their pitchers have (not) gotten, I’m willing to be open minded either way about his true value, despite his loss record, which has grown to be a more dubious stat in recent years and for this White Sox team in particular.

I think the evidence shows he is a decent pitcher. I don’t think you can say there is actual value in a player who never participated in any wins.

IMHO, at a team level, wions above replacement should be tied to wins. That is not how BR does it though; they assign the team’s individual WAR based on its Pythagorean projection. So, the White Sox has a team have a total of 4.0 WAR; the methodology says they are as valuable as a team with 39 wins where a replacement level team would have 35. But they haven’t won 39 games, they’ve won 32. Their team WAR should add up to -3.

If one wanted top argue that they actually have 4.0 WAR worth of talent and you should take that into account in projecting future performance, fair enough. But I’d argue the team demonstrably must be below replacement level in value in terms of ACTUAL performance to date, because that is, in fact, how many games they have won.

32-110. Twenty games to go; if they don’t play .500 ball, they break the record. This is the most exciting stretch run in MLB.

is that just sad or …

What is the record? 1962 Mets were 40-120, .250, but didn’t play two rainout games.

There are two other teams with poorer winning percentages. The 1916 Athletics finished with a percentage of .235. For the Sox to finish with a lower percentage, they would need to finish no better than 38-124, which would mean going no better than 6-14 in their last 20 games.

Which would still be a .300 winning percentage, and better than they’ve played all season. :wink:

Oh, exactly. Right now they are playing at a .225 pace, which calculates to 36.5 wins.

What’s more, they’ve been playing at a .114 win rate (5-39) over the second half of the season, and .160 (4-21) under interim manager Grady Sizemore.

I’d just be happy with the loss record. Winning percentage, meh.

Sox lost 7-5 tonight. 33-111, They’re now tied for the 11th most losses ever in modern MLB history, with a bunch of other teams. Still on pace for 125 losses.

Looking ahead, after finishing the series against the Red Sox on Sunday, they will have 18 games left, against the following (all are three-game series):

  • Guardians
  • A’s
  • @ Angels
  • @ Padres
  • Angels
  • @ Tigers

So, half of their remaining games are against bad teams (though neither the A’s nor the Angels are nearly as bad as the Sox). And, at least for next week’s games in Chicago, there’s no rain in the forecast, so the odds of losing a game to weather next week are pretty slim.

White Sox now on a 1-game winning streak, after beating the Red Sox 7-2 on Sunday. Now 33-111, .229 winning percentage.

I don’t feel like looking this up, but when was the last time the White Sox strung two together? Three?