THEM by Jon Ronson

Has anyone else read this book and enjoyed it?

For those who haven’t heard of it, it’s a book on extremists (a Muslim fundamentalist, a member of the KKK, Randy Weaver’s daughter, David Icke, etc.) who all believe that the Bilderberg Group and of a secret elite who participate in the Bohemian Grove control the world.

Wondering if anyone wants to have a discussion about it.

“It’s ‘THEM’, gentlemen.”

[sub]yes, I am the jerk who goes into a question thread that’s been languishing for days, only to make a joke instead of providing information. Ain’t I a stinker?[/sub]

And here I was thinking of BIG ants… silly me… :wink:

Don’t mean to offend by reopening this, but in our monthly Birch meeting, they showed us a video by an Alex Jones, who snuck into the Grove and filmed a bunch of men burning an “effigy”, which they claimed might be a human to Moloch, thus proving what total reprobates the Invisible government are.
Interesting…whats your take on this?

heres a link
www.infowars.com/bg1.html

Well my take on it is that I pretty much agree with Ronson, that it’s a masonic-like ritual, rather than a satanic-like one. I felt that Alex Jones was over-dramatising somewhat. My opinion is that the participants were being silly rather than evil.

However, to ridicule Alex Jones for his enthusiasm is to ignore the fact that if any other group of people started burning effigies in front of a giant owl, they could find themselves in serious trouble for their weirdness. It took a lot less to bring about the slaughter at Waco.

The important aspect for me is that Ronson showed that powerful people, with a specific agenda (globalisation), are meeting in secret to further that agenda. I think that this deserves the same attention in the news given to the various “official” summits.

I enjoyed the book a lot. The Muslim extremist, David Icke and KKK chapters are expecially funny. Then there’s the part about the Weavers, which is anything but.

Out of interest, was anyone ever prosecuted for the events at Ruby Ridge and Waco? Neither incident was covered particularly well in the news here.

Also, what is a Birch meeting?

Loved the book. Ronson’s a very readable journalist. I too shared the view that the whole Grove do was a silly CEOs-go-wild event, like kids with ouija boards. Jones came across as a man unable to play devil’s advocate with his own beliefs.

I too found it a very fun and interesting read. I’ve become quite attached to books about the fringe…especially those that treat fringies with a good amount of humanity and not just as an object of ridicule. Another book in that camp (in my opinion) was Apocolypse Pretty Soon which was about millenial groups.

Birch meeting- a John Birch Society meeting, held here in my library once a month. We attend, but I’m not a paid member, meaning I don’t pay dues.

vanila, are you really in the John Birch Society???

I thought that group went extinct after they were ridiculed in Dr. Strangelove!

What do you do at meetings? Do you talk about how the commies are taking over?

Like I said, I don’t pay dues(can’t afford it) but I go there. They mainly show videos.
Its not exactly Communists, nowadays.
Its the invisible government, members of the Trilateral and CFR who control everything.
A republic is supposedly the only good form of government.
Its interesting.

I just read that book this weekend. It really wasn’t fiction?! Holy Crap! I’m sorry, but if the portrayal of that Alex Jones character is accurate, then that guy is nuts. My fraternity has better security at its secret meetings that Bohemian Grove did. He is as out-to-lunch as the fundies who think that Harry Potter is satanic.

It is amazing to me that all sorts of paranoid delusions are actually about real things: Bilderberg & Bohemian Grove. Yet, the prosaic explanations are abandoned a priori. The Bilderberg group was formed after WWII, with the realization that a more integrated, cooperative world is a Good Thing. That makes perfect sense.

It is unfortunate that the group is “secretive,” or “private” as they put it, but that hardly makes it a conspiracy, nor any less anti-democratic than any other NGO (who elected the Sierra Club?!).

Well, I must say that this book is brilliant.

So their agend is to keep the USA a republic, right?