…than Carson Palmer!!! 
Nobody (except my old college roommate) expected it, but Carson won it, and won it convincingly.
And now the Orange Bowl is definitely the bowl game to watch, as the nation tunes in to see if Banks was robbed. (He wasn’t.)
God, this is such a wonderful day!
Definitely a new age for 'SC, just you watch. 
Obviously McGahee and Dorsey split each others votes.
Just goes to show that the Heisman is even more irrelevant than usual.
Too bad Carson got more points than both of them combined. Nice try though.
Love, A Trojan Alum and Fan
I can’t even believe this. I was preparing my first pit rant too.
Winning the heisman almost ensures you no future in Professional Football. So I hope Carson has a nice life working at McD’s.
Through the course of the season, I saw all the contenders at least once. (Yes, I watch too much college football.) I would have voted for Carson Palmer all the way, based on how he played in USC’s games against Auburn and Notre Dame.
How he does in Pro Football doesn’t matter. That has nothing to do with winning the Heisman. If his acceptance speech is any measure of his capabilities, he won’t have to look forward to a carreer at McD’s, pro ball or not.
You mean like Ron Dayne (OK, he’s questionable), Ricky Williams, Charles Woodson, Eddie George, Ty Detmer, Barry Sanders, Tim Brown, Vinny Testaverde, Bo Jackson, Doug Flutie, Herschel Walker, Marcus Allen.
So we have ten legitimate stars in 20 years. Plus two more stable NFLers (while not stars, they are nice utility guys) in Detmer and Dayne. Plus Charlie Ward, who didn’t wash out of the NFL as he went to the NBA instead.
So 7 out of 20 were washouts. And I’m including Salaam in that figure, even though he was somewhat borderline.
Not exactly ensuring failure.
He’ll be good as a pro. Great mechanics, nice size (6’6’’), and good ability to read the field.
We can only hope the Bengals don’t take him and ruin him ;).
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Hey, who let all the grapes go sour?
Personally, I’m just hoping some bizarre series of events lands Carson on the Broncos. I think he’d work well with their system and personnel. Don’t see it happening, but it would be nice.
Y’all wouldn’t be calling the Heisman Trophy irrelevant or the property of losers if your boys had won it, right?
Yeah, didn’t think so.
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Ty Detmer a “legitimate star”? I don’t think so! He might have been in the NFL, but that doesn’t mean he was any good. Charlie Ward didn’t make it in the NFL because he wasn’t drafted.
Anyway, I’m happy for Palmer, I wanted him or Brad Banks to win. I didn’t get a chance to see him play this year, but his stats looked pretty good. Palmer is getting a lot of hype for the NFL now too.
Hmmm…perhaps I was unclear. I listed 12 players. I said ten of those players were legitimate stars and two more were stable. Dayne and Detmer were the stables.
True, he wasn’t drafted but that was because of his height and he was coming into an era where it was believed short people couldn’t be QBs. IMHO, I think that Ward would have been a not shabby NFLer, despite his stature and not great arm strength. But he was never given a chance.
Anyway, looking back, I should have included him on the failure list since Splanky had merely said “no future in Pro Football,” which Ward definitely did not.
So now the revised count is 8 with no future, 12 with a future. Still not exactly a condemnation of the Heisman.
Nope, not unclear. After looking over the post again (the one I quoted :rolleyes: ) I see that I just need to learn how to read.
Though Detmer shouldn’t even be counted since he shouldn’t have won that year. Rocket Ismail should have won it. Detmer played in a joke conference against no names and was left in to pad his stats. But let’s not start a debate about the Heisman from 11 years ago.