Thinking about CA: Civil War...

Now that the official synopsis is out, I was thinking about the upcoming Captain America: Civil War movie and I was wondering, who among the established and upcoming superheros in the MCU would side with Stark and the governments that want to regulate superhuman activity?

I would assume the most likely candidates would be War Machine, Hawkeye and Black Widow, as they all work for the government, but Black Widow has a personal connection to Cap and Hawkeye has a personal connection to her. Could they wind up on opposite sides?

The established and by-then established superhumans/superheros/heroes should look something like this:

Cap
Iron Man
Hulk
Thor (though I don’t think either Hulk or Thor is going to be in this movie, actually)
Hawkeye
Black Widow
Quicksilver
Scarlet Witch
The Vision
Spider-Man
Black Panther
Ant Man

if they include the Netflix shows, then also:

Daredevil
Power Man
Iron Fist
Jessica Jones

if they include the characters from AoS, then also:

Skye/Daisy/Quake
Deathlok
Looking at that list, I can’t think of too many that would fight for the government.
Maybe Skye?
But even her is a reach.
The Hell’s Kitchen heroes from Netflix are all counterculture types.
Maybe the Vision, depending on how he’s depicted, and maybe Ant Man, also depending on how that character is depicted.

Just curious as to what other people think will wind up being done with the story given what we know now.

It’s all going to depend one what they make the motivating factor and what the penalties are for not playing along. Not going by the comics version in deciding, I’d place The Vision, Black Panther, Spiderman and Ant Man on Team Stark. Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Black Widow come in on Team Cap. Hawkeye vacillates. If we throw in AoS, then Quake lands with Cap.

Asgardians don’t seem thrilled with superpowered humans, so I could see Thor siding with the government temporarily. As soon as he meets Skye he’ll fall in love with her and switch sides.

I’m not certain Thor is going to be part of the movie. My sense from what I’ve read is that the events of Thor: Ragnarok will be occurring simultaneously with CA: Civil War.

I’m undecided about Black Widow. Early in CA: TWS, she splits off from Cap’s battle plan to rescue hostages so as to obtain SHIELD data at Fury’s direction (and behind Cap’s back). He catches her at it and she’s “Whoops. This is awkward.” Not contrite or embarrassed at all. Then later she dumps all SHIELD agent files onto the internet, seeming to take up Cap’s stance that to eradicate or flush out Hydra, SHIELD must go too.

I can see her falling on the side that’s going to take steps to protect the world from superhuman menaces and evil organizations. If a few eggs need to get broken to make the Greater Good omelet ($3.99 at Denny’s every weekday from 10am to 4pm!), then I’d think she’d be comfortable with that, because gushing red ledger.

I’d also say Hawkeye is going to follow her lead, but we’re supposed to get more character development on him in Age of Ultron.

Well, there goes the shark, beneath their waterskis.

That’s an odd fucking thing to say. Why would this constitute jumping the shark?

I have to say I thought pretty much the same when I read about the outline this morning.

Why? Theywant to do Civil War and resolve the Winter soldier story in one film with a massive cast. That has Spiderman 3 written all over it.

It’s fatal to throw too much stuff into a superhero movie. Less is usually more. Cap 2 was a tight 70’s style spy thriller, it was great. Cap 3 looks like it’s going to be a meandering unfocused mess.

I could be wrong, I hope i’m wrong but I don’t think it looks good.

You mean like how the Avengers would never work because it had too many superheroes to share time in one movie?

Too many costumed goofballs isn’t the issue. Too many plot threads crammed into one Superhero movie is the issue. Superhero movies are at their best when they follow the Teletubbies model: colorful, lots of motion, simple story line.

Where can one find this official outline?

The storyline IS simple: Iron Man supports government control of superhumans, Cap does not. Conflict ensues.

Then you get all the recriminations, regrets and angst that will come into play before Avengers 3 hits the screen. I’m looking forward to it, because I trust Marvel. They haven’t let me down yet.

And if that were true I’d be fine.

Take what you said, add.

Captain America is hunting down the Winter soldier to redeem/rescue him while dealing with Hydra remnants and a new major villian in Baron Zemo.(Not to mention the introduction of the Black Panther and Spiderman into the Marvel Universe.)

Those are both plots that could carry a entire movie. Trying to do them both in one is what’s causing me concern and what makes me think of Spiderman 3.

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Where do you get that? I didn’t see anything about hunting down the Winter Soldier in that plot summary.

http://marvel-movies.wikia.com/wiki/Captain_America:_Civil_War_rumors

I mentioned this in the Thread discussing the addition of Spider-man into the MCU:
Remember that pre-release of The Winter Soldier press releases mentioned that Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch would be in the movie. I went to see Cap2 spending the first half of the movie waiting to be introduced to Q&SW, then spent the second half of the movie forgetting that they were supposed to be in it at all. Then, in the mid-credits sequence they show up for two seconds in a segment directed not by the directors of Winter Soldier.

So, yeah, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch were in the movie but not really.

Spider-man and Black Panther could be in Civil War in much the same way.

P.S. Does anyone else think it’s weird that Ant-Man is considered part of Phase 2 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe?

Phase 1 were the films leading up to and culminating in the first Avengers film.

Phase 2 is all the films leading up to and culminating in the second Avengers film …plus Ant-Man. As an epilogue? Dénouement? An after-thought?

It’s the next film after an Avengers film and it introduces a new character. Surely this should be the kick-off to Phase 3? Yet, the powers that be have deemed it part of Phase 2.

It also seems to me that the Inhumans film should kick of Phase 4 instead of being phase 3.
Why does no one consult me on these things!?!?!?

Does it seem wierd to anyone else that Cap 3 is touching Civil War at all?

I mean shouldn’t that be in an actual Avengers movie. I mean looking at the cast list for C3 it looks like practically everyone in the Mavel movie universe is in it anyway, because they’d pretty much have to be in a Civil War movie, so shouldn’t they have gone for that with Avengers 3.

So, a rumors website?