Quote JeffB
And apparently unable to figure out the quote tags.
I’m afraid I don’t know what you mean.
Warfarin is one of those drugs that you just plainly don’t fuck with. In one of the hospitals where I work, a 1 mg dosage prescription was misread as a 10 mg dosage, and the patient died. I am more careful when dealing with Warfarin than I am when dealing with certain Category II drugs.
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I’m not assuming you’re an idiot.
I am starting to think I may conclude you’re an idiot, though.
Seriously. Get some sleep, drop this thread and move on. Next time you want to post, use the review function and check to see if your post includes complete sentences that say what you want it to say. Your OP in the other thread is nearly incomprehensible.
Or, on the other hand, you can keep this up and flame out. Your choice.
The Drs’ nurse is an old friend. We go back 15+ years.
When I asked her whats happening here she responded"Oh we just have to find the right combination for you."
Not much info.
So you all think I should call a surgeon that charges me hundreds of dollars for an appointment and ask him for an explanation???Get real.
So why not ask here???
Some of you are smart in this kind of thing.
To those that think that an intelligent question must be paragraphs long need to do some outside real world work.
BTW I have been getting plenty of sleep. I have little else to do. And I am not stressed over not knowing what a high count means.
BTW My wife just asked me whay it means when you have a high count.She doesn’t even know what it is a count of. Huh seems like the reason I started the thread in GQ.
First of all, I don’t think anybody suggested you call a surgeon for an explanation, it was suggested you ask your doctor, what the high numbers, whatever they are, may indicate.
Secondly, “So why not ask here???
Some of you are smart in this kind of thing.”
And some are not, and may give you erroneous information that may lead to grave consequences.
Thirdly, Hi Opal!!
And lastly, an intelligent question need not be paragraphs long, but it should be coherent.
As in, written in a way that people understand what message you are trying to get across.
A little politeness wouldn’t hurt either.
Calling people stupid because people don’t understand your message, because of it’s incoherency, is not a way to win friends and influence people, or get a question answered.
From reading your Original Post in the first thread, I interpreted the “we” as referring to you and your wife, not you and your doctor (or nurse). Looks like Ferret Herder, and others, made the same assumption; hence the expressed concern at your self-adjustment of dosages. It’s not an unreasonable interpretation, given the lack of detail in the post.
An intelligent question need not be paragraphs long, as you point out, but it should contain enough information to respond appropriately. Given the ambiguity of your post, **Dr Matrix ** really was given no choice but to close the thread.
My unsolicited advice: take a little more time to craft your questions, and you’ll get more on-point responses. And try in the future to recognize when people are trying to help you before jumping all over them.
This is a written medium, we are not in your living room with you and your wife to hear her question. We were not in the Dr’s office with you when he said “your numbers are high”. We only know what you wrote.
The staff around here are (correctly) touchy about medical advice being bandied about, Handy was banned over medical advice, IIRC. You’re going to ask a question (especially about a touchy subject) you need to clearly state the question, not spend 30 seconds throwing together a quick stream of consciousness note.
You’ve got a description of the drug, a sentence fragment, a question that doesn’t define what “that” is, and you haven’t defined the pronoun “we” at all. This thing is a mess! No wonder nobody reading it could figure out your question. Elfbabe managed to get your point across in intelligible english. Read her post again, compare and contrast.
Happened at the hospital my sister works at as well. Blood thinners can be quite nasty in high doses. I believe she describe the result as a “bleed out”
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From reading your Original Post in the first thread, I interpreted the “we” as referring to you and your wife, not you and your doctor (or nurse).
An intelligent question need not be paragraphs long, as you point out, but it should contain enough information to respond appropriately. Given the ambiguity of your post, **Dr Matrix ** really was given no choice but to close the thread.
First of all nowhere did I even hint that my wife had anything to do with my doseage. Hell I didn’t even mention being married.Maybe you should examine your reasoning a little more thouroughly.
The question was simple. Just the facts.
1 I’m taking warfarin.
2 My count is high.
3 Whats that mean?
We’re adjusting the doseage is just a comment.
The decision to close the thread was unjustified.
I can find absolutely no reason that a reasonable human would think it to be anything other than a simple question.
That question is WTF are they talking about.
No, I didn’t expect you to call a surgeon, make an appointment, and spend a ton of money to ask a single question. Surgeons don’t handle coumadin prescriptions anyway.
I expected you to call your own doctor and ask him/her: “What does a high count mean in my case?” Or if that nurse is such an old friend, ask her. Why are you apparently intentionally avoiding the people handling your health care in favor of a bunch of random people on a message board?
Isn’t it possible that perhaps the implications of a “high count” would vary based on age? Based on other health factors? All of which your own doctor and nurse would know, but none of us do. So we aren’t necessarily qualified to talk about what one means for you.
It is the surgeons office thats handling the adjustments.
Why do you continue to ask these stupid questions?I only wanted the people that know about Warfarin to answer. Anyone elses comments were welcome but the simple truth is you are kicking a dead dog. The facts are in. Dr Matrix had no buisness closing the thread.
Quote)Isn’t it possible that perhaps the implications of a “high count” would vary based on age? Based on other health factors? All of which your own doctor and nurse would know, but none of us do. So we aren’t necessarily qualified to talk about what one means for you.(Quote)
Hey now you are getting the idea. A discussion about the effects of Warfarin/cumiden.
Forget it. Call me a jerk, I don’t care. I advised one simple phone call to your own doctor or nurse, and instead you’d prefer to call people stupid over that and similar requests.
Oddly, I’m reminded of MMORPGs where high level characters (the equivalent of high post-count posters) are sold on eBay to people who then get into the game with no clue how to play their high level character. As a consequence, you see this person who should be able to kill most anything in the game getting wiped by the easiest of monsters.
You can’t sell your posting account here on eBay, can you?
Anyone else think this warfarin is causing some sort of blood loss to the brain?
I guess I’m not understanding. I understand the question now “When someone says your ‘levels are high’ when taking Coumadin, what does that mean?” but I don’t understand the concept that you can’t ask the very person/s that told you that information to begin with.
“So, your levels are high and we’ll have to adjust your dosage.”
“OK”
::click::
“Hmmm…I wonder what that means”
If you don’t understand someone a medical person has told you, you have the right and the obligation to yourself to ASK THEM. People are reluctant to answer because it’s a dangerous drug to mess with and should be used under close supervision by your doc- so if they said your levels are high, there should be no problem calling them to ask details about what that means, how it affects you and your dosage, etc.
You at least know the correct term from Qadgop- INR value- so you can research what you need on the 'net. But I’m at a loss as to why you would just not pick up the phone and say “Hey, remember when you called and said my levels were high? Can you explain what exactly that means?”
No one is trying to get on your shit about it, but your irrational anger toward having your thread closed and toward everyone that’s responded to it about guarentees that you won’t fiind your answers here. It’s a shame that either your personality or your illness has made you so abrasive and nasty toward people who were trying to help you, or at least prevent you from doing yourself harm.
So what happened to freedom of information?
I asked a simple question and an almighty moderator decided he wouldn’t allow the question. He didn’t even give a reason. There was lots of folks defending what they thought he was doing it for.-explain that!
Except for Quadop noone else has, to my recolection, any medical background. Why should I listen to you?
Zette you didn’t even read my posts. If you had you would have read that I did ask and my answer was "Oh we’ve just got to adjust the doseage some."Why do you keep harping on what you perceive as my lack of common sence ?I asked questions and didn’t get good enough answers.
FWIW I’ve so far talked to 2 day nurses at the hospital,2 pharmacists at the hospital several blood suckers and my friend who is with the surgeon’s office.
Asking a simple question,what does high numbers mean is not out of line.
On the old stmb (rip) someone would have taken their time and explained what they are counting. Why being high is not good . Why it needs to be between certain levels and probably more info than I need to know. NONE of which is medical advice.
I REPEAT: None of which is medical advice.
So I leave it up to you. Why shouldn’t I be upset when a moderator throws out a legitamate question about a legitamate subject.
I find it difficult to believe that more of you are not upset that this is becoming a totalitarian message board.
One more time.The mod had no right to throw out the question.
Justwanna,
You sound like a frickin’ nut in this thead, and you sounded wasted/confused in the brief OP in question.
Believe or no, the mod was probably genuinely concerned for your health and safety and did not want you to act on ANY INFO that people might have posted. Can’t you see the logic there? Your whining here about your intentions and whatnot is made totally irrelevent by your lack of lucidity in your OP.
Stop being a dick, go to your doctor–and, seriously, good luck with your health problems. I know that these things suck.
There is a significant problem here. Allow me to clarify:
You seem to think that your original OP contained a comprehensible question. Not true. This
is not an understandable question. At least, not in English. I should know, it’s my native language, and I’m not a complete idiot (no matter what all those people say!)
The question you were trying to ask was completely legitimate, and would have gotten a useful response from our Doctor Dopers, and would not have been locked by a mod. The question you did ask was impossible to understand without clarification, and mods don’t like strange medical questions to float around, especially when the OP says “we are changing the dosage” without stating clearly that the doctor changed the dosage, and you are complying.
I had a long, thought out, informative post about this thread and its subject, but I deleted it because it’s meaning would just be wasted on justwannano.
And justwannano, the more you post in this thread, the more you sound like a belligerent idiot.
Give it a rest, lay down and take a nap.
I’m going to.
When I say that it must be OK with you that Big Brother is alive and well and living at the SDMB.
Why do I hang around with a bunch of puppets?