I don’t have to wonder…I’d bet my last dollar that they will.
Generally, yes. Because her response to the request – whether you consider it a legitimate request or not – is completely misleading and, IMHO, quite dishonest.
That theory has been debunked here before. It appears to have come from a Yale law professor who wanted 15 minutes, the same one who wrote the Time article.
http://www.libertylawsite.org/2017/01/03/no-the-electoral-college-was-not-about-slavery/
“Liberty Law”? Really? Even that guy says it was to protect the power of the (white, male) aristocracy, whether they owned slaves or not. Good thing we aren’t worried about *that *anymore, right?
Here’s the thread:
https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=832462
In which we see your one post contribution can be paraphrased as “duh, obviously it’s true”. I agree with Johnny Ace, it’s debunked as far as I’m concerned.
Clearly, the Founding Father’s commitment to egalitarian democracy cannot be doubted simply because they preferred that the nation be led by men of substance and property. By a happy coincidence, themselves.
Go ahead and bump the old thread if you have some meaningful argument to make. I won’t hold my breath.
No problem, go right ahead.
They did, though. They got 1.06%.
I saw something like 0.96% but I guess I was looking in the wrong place. Well okay. They broke 1%. Wow. Clearly, this is a party that’s going places.
And clearly they are the non-Democratic-Party vote most worth yelling at :rolleyes:, considering that several times that many independents and former Democrats voted for “a businessman who will drain the swamp.”
Reality is, over the long term, both the D and R parties are trending downward. Since '04, their overall trendline rates have each been very close to -4%. The Ds have an edge of about 4 percentage points, because they started out with that advantage.
The unaffiliated are the ones who pick the winner, and they are massively ahead of either party, by 16-20 percentage points, with a +6% trendline.
What I am saying is that no actual Democrats voted for CFSG, only Rs and Us. That huge “middle” (45% of the total) is what both parties are flailing after. I say “middle” reservedly: the unaffiliated includes the Greens, the Glibertarians, the Alt-Whites, the Whigs/Know-Nothings, the Sortas and the genuine middle. Whosoever manages to capture the biggest chunk of that near-majority takes the cup. So, blaming the Greens for Ms Clinton’s ineptness/arrogance/failure to connect is just fucking weak sauce.
I guess we’ll just have to disagree on that. I’ll just end by noting that if if JS is “scum” for only agreeing, at first, to comply with part of the Senate’s request even if she offers a BS response, I think you’re going to quickly run out of descriptors for folks who have don much worse things.
Like my mom always says, if you’re going to admit you’re wrong always do so grudgingly!
This. As a Libertarian, had Johnson not been running I would have held my nose and voted for Clinton. And why not? I had to hold my nose to vote for Johnson.
So you’re saying the complaining Dems are wrong and it’s actual Libertarian voters like yourself, not the Greens, who gave the election to Trump? Interesting.
No, Trump’s election is the responsibility of *everyone *who could have voted for the only viable alternative but did not. If that includes you, own it. It’s not complicated.
If you didn’t notice, dalej42 seems upset that Stein actually campaigned and did so in swing states, no less! I’ve seen a lot of Dem anger pointed at Stein and Sanders for not getting on the Hillary train but never towards Johnson. So, that’s interesting. Imho.
I didn’t use the word “scum.” I generally think of her as consistently misleading and deceptive. But if another poster wants to boil down “a politician who meets all the worst stereotypes of deceiving voters at every turn” as someone who is “scum,” I am not compelled to come to the defense of the prevaricator. You apparently do feel that way. Fantastic.
And I wonder if the Democrats stopped being viable in my state when they lined up behind Hillary. It was an ugly year.