Device or not, or self-imposed or not, I think Hulk was trapped there and Thor rescued him.
Late to the game, but I just saw it last night. Three people in the theater.
I don’t know why people like this, but hate Justice League (aka Justice Avengers 
). They’re basically the same movie:
Team of heroes
One reluctant hero
With humorous banter
fight a giant supernatural enemy with giant horns on head
Large battles with innumerable interchangeable cgi opponents
battles are incomprehensible at normal viewing speed
Battle comes down to who can punch hardest
Yep and I’ve never understood why people consider *Casablanca *so great and Barb Wire so bad. I mean it is the same basic plot right? Or are movies about the execution, pacing, directing and writing and not just the plot and assembled characters?
Haven’t seen Justice League (yet), but my guess would be Thor is funny and JL is not.
I’ve seen both. You are not wrong. Sir T-Cups, that is. Just Asking Questions is totally wrong.
Also, among other things, the final battle didn’t come down to who could punch hardest. Thor lost the punching part battle, even after he looked inward and learned the true source of his power. He won by outsmarting Hela, by making a sacrifice she couldn’t imagine he’d make. It was actually fairly intelligent. Dr. Strange did something similar.
Well, I disagree. I thought they were both equally fun, funny, and much too busy.
Modern superhero fight scenes, especially against supernatural beings, are just noise after a while. I’m sure the animators put a lot of effort into making the scenes the best they can, but they just go too fast. All that detail is wasted. Five gazillion identical cg warriors, with no individuality and hence no reason to care about (do they have hopes and dreams? Did they want to be identical warriors? Does anyone care?) get punched/thrown/sliced/whatever for five minutes. I half tune out until it is over. Then someone does a big punch and the fight is over.
I prefer the character interaction, and I thought both movies handled that more or less equally well. I like Thor and Hulk, and I like Affleck’s Batman and Superman.
For a change, there is a permanent affect - Thor loses an eye. Why his one lasting injury is a lost eye, after everything else that happened to him in the movie, being stomped, hulk-smashed, stabbed, crushed, dropped and otherwise supernaturaled, one just has to chalk up to “comics”.
eta: Alessan’s comment: yes, i did notice Thor used his brains more, one thing that I did complain about after watching Justice Avengers. Supes and Bats are both supposed to be real smart, and I would appreciate a movie that showed them winning by using their brains, but I figure that’s part and parcel of modern superhero movies, and not a fundamental difference between Marvel and DC. Punching is much more visual than thinking.
Just saw this last weekend. It was better than I thought it would be. Easily the best “Thor” movie so far. They did manage to capture a lot of the Jack Kirby vibe in the appearance, and the humor was a good touch.
I haven’t been following Marvel in many years, so I’m not familiar with the “Hulk World” storyline and the more recent “Ragnarok” storyline this film uses, but I do observe that it has echoes of the old Silver Age stuff I grew up with.
1.) When Journey Into Mystery/Thor hit issue #200 (even though Thor had only regularly appearing in it since #83), they figured they needed a Landmark Issue thing, so they did an out-of-sequence story about Ragnarok. (“Out of Sequence” because Ragnarok is literally The End of the World – even though it isn’t in the movie). Here’s the cover:
2.) The January 1965 issuie of Journey into Mystery (#112) featured a battle between Thor and the Hulk. It’s interesting, because the Hulk Boosters (in New York City, not Jeff Goldblum’s planet) carried Hilk masks on sticks and signs just as in the movie. I’ll bet the drew some inspiration from this issue. (Thor booster had signs and heads, too)
I felt the humor was turned up too far in this. I liked it but there was absolutely no drama or stakes because nothing was ever taken seriously even a little bit.
Marvel movies are more fun because they realize and embrace the fact that they have to be fun. Justice League had to get the fun force fed into it post production by a Marvel guy.
I don’t believe Superhero movies have to light in tone and fun by definition. The Zak Snyder DC movies, specifically BvsS, had issues with execution but the core idea was not inherently wrong.
No, but I think Snyder’s vision is. Bleak is boring. So long as the DCEU follows that vision, it will always run second to Marvel.
Snyder (and people like Mark Millar and Garth Ennis) don’t understand that unrelentingly dark and grim comic book stories are just as flat as comic book stories that have no dark and grim elements. Their stories have no more depth than an Archie comic.
God, Kirby was brilliant, wasn’t he? I’ve been trying for years to get an original Kirby page or cover and haven’t been able to. Someday, someday…
I think the key is that dark works for some characters, but not others. Dark Batman is fine (as with Batman Begins and The Dark Knight). Dark Superman, though, falls flat, because that’s not who Superman is. He’s the guy who said “In this world, there is right, and there is wrong, and it is not hard to tell the difference”.
I agree, although I loved “Deadpool”. But that’s what that character is all about. Here it was a weird mishmash of a generic, overserious plot “punched up” with random jokes.
I finally saw this. All I have to add is something I’ve never seen pointed out anywhere else.
The planet Thor lands on is a direct steal from the last episode of Lost in Space, “Junkyard in Space.” The ship crashes onto a planet that draws in electronic junk from all over the universe, covering the entire surface. Stuff falls out of the sky near them, exactly as it does in Thor. It’s absolutely blatant. I can’t believe I’m the first to make the connection.
Bumped.
Bonus points for candor: https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/27/entertainment/taika-waititi-thor-ragnarok-poor/index.html