THOR: Ragnarok- Seen It!!

Ray Stevenson has been around since the first Thor movie, Zachary Levi took over some other guy in the second movie.

See posts #96 and #97. :slight_smile:

Rio by Duran Duran.

Thread here because, you’re right, not needed to discuss here.

Ha, well look at that. I’ll chalk that up to either a really great coincidence or, most likely, really shitty journalism on the writers’ part.

I just don’t see any other context in which those actions make sense. They were both elite warriors, one of them taking a spear meant for another and knocking them out of the fight only makes sense if they are lovers.

I don’t follow you. Lots of Medal of Honor winners received their posthumous award for sacrificing their life to save another. They weren’t all lovers. Nothing on screen in its current form suggested a relationship. Nothing precludes it either.

Jesus fucking Christ. Seventeen fucking Marvel movies without an openly gay character, including this one, and there’s still some straight guy on the internet bitching about how “everything’s” gay because of a scene that didn’t even make it into the film.

Isn’t she bi in the comic?

That was absolutely not the case because I didn’t even know the scene existed, and even said as much in one of my responses.

Oh, jeez, sorry, let me amend my post:

“Jesus fucking Christ. Seventeen fucking Marvel movies without an openly gay character, including this one, and there’s still some straight guy on the internet bitching about how “everything’s” gay because some people think it would be nice if there were.

That puts your sentiment in a much better light.

I enjoyed it more than most Marvel movies, and I like most Marvel movies. I do wish they did Thor 2 with this humor, and played this one straighter. The destruction of Asgard could have been a Winter Soldier holy shit revelation in a more serious movie. I also would’ve liked it if they played up the fact that Odin apparently was a hypocrite who used Hela to conquer a bunch of places, and then repainted when he had a change of heart.

I loved it when he stuck his hammer in the dragon’s mouth and then let go. Stay!

…regarding whether or not Valkyrie is bisexual or not: I love this twitter comment from Fangirl Jeanne:

“A bisexual warrior woman of color walking on a RAINBOW with fireworks and a spaceship painted the colors of the Australian Aboriginal Flag!”

There is no way that Taika wasn’t making a statement of some sort with that scene. As much as this movie is a hilarious comedy, there is a meta-narrative about both colonization and about refugees in the movie as well. Putting the colours of the Aboriginal flag on the Grandmasters ship and the colours of the Tino rangatiratanga flag on Valkyrie’s ship is just such a subversive, Taika thing to do, especially as both flags have a history of controversy in their respective countries. Very proud that another Wellingtonian (via Raukokore :slight_smile: ) has made it big on the world stage.

Here’s what bugs me about the appearance by Dr. Strange:

Loki comes to Earth. Dr. Strange almost immediately traps him in a bottomless pit, and tells Thor it’s because he protects Earth from creatures from other realms that could harm it.

Then the freakin’ goddess of Death comes to Earth, and Dr. Strange does nothing.

Was he on his lunch break?

Well Loki showed up in NYC, right under his nose. Where was Dark Galadriel again? Norway and briefly?

Yeah, Loki showed up basically exactly where Strange expected him to. He also said he keeps a list of threats. He wouldn’t even know who Hela was.

Agreed. Even if we assume that Thor had previously provided SHIELD / the Avengers / whoever with a list of threats which Asgard knew could affect Earth, Hela wouldn’t have been on the list: Thor didn’t even know of her (or, if he did, he wouldn’t have had any reason to believe she was still alive), as Odin had whitewashed Asgard’s history to remove her role.

Similarly, even if we assume that Odin and Hela had conquered Midgard (Earth) during their conquests, it would have been over a thousand years ago (if we assume that the Vikings’ interactions with the Asgardians were at least in part during the post-Hela era, as it seems likely that Thor had interacted with their Viking worshippers). It’s possible that knowledge of Hela as a supernatural threat existed somewhere in the records that we saw in the library at the Kamar-Taj monastery in Nepal (from the Doctor Strange fim), but, again, that’s one of many threats from Earth’s history, and it’s been dormant / gone for a millennium or longer.

And, even if Strange had a Magical Threat Detection Device (a.k.a. the “Oh Shit Meter”) in his Sanctum Sanctorum, and it picked up Hela the moment she arrived on Earth…as What Exit? notes, she was an ocean away, and wasn’t there for very long (two minutes, maximum?), before heading to Asgard via Bifrost.

Emphasis added. Just stopping in to say that though I’m guessing this was a typo for “repented”, if you were actually making a punning allusion to the refurbished ceiling mural in the Hall of Asgard then that was SUPER clever. :smiley:

Haven’t read all the posts but I just saw the movie.

I agree with what I’ve seen some people posting; I think the humor undercut the story. There were some very tragic events here; Odin’s death, the death of the Warriors Three, the destruction of Asgard; the apparent loss of Bruce Banner. The movie should have been a little more somber. I actually expected it would be. I knew the commercials had a lot of jokes but I thought they were just loading them and the movie itself would be less comedic. So a rare case of the ads being on target.

I noted the absence of Sif. She should have been at least mentioned like Jane Foster was.

I expect Sif to show up on Agents of SHIELD this season with an explanation as to where she was and what she was doing. It’s a natural since she’s guested on the show before.