THOR: Ragnarok- Seen It!!

… like for real?

One character out of dozens introduced might not be straight and you are going to roll your eyes and whine about it?

I saw it last night. It confirmed my fears: the movie was pure camp, without any attempt at anything remotely serious. Once I gave up my disappointment, and accepted that fact, it was ok. But I won’t be seeing it again, and I definitely won’t be buying it when it comes out.

I don’t have any objection to camp per se. However, I prefer it to be consistent with the development of the characters within the universe. To date, the Thor character hasn’t been campy (though a tinge of comedy tends to cling to him). One of the better scenes in the MCU movies was Thor unable to lift Mjollnir in the first Thor movie; imagine that whole scene (the battle, etc.) played for camp. :frowning:

Further, I don’t recall that the Thor comics were campy, at least not in the 70s and 80s when I was reading them. Spider Man always was played for laughs, so I love it when they introduce a bit of light-heartedness into his stuff. Thor, not so much that I recall.

I know that people love the Guardians of the Galaxy movies. Personally, I don’t find that sort of stuff very enjoyable, certainly not on a lasting basis. I very much hope this is not an indication that they intend to take Thor that way permanently. If it is, it will be added to the list of MCU movies I don’t go watch.

PS: I won’t be watching The New Mutants. I hate horror flicks. Black Panther looks like it could be decent, as long as it isn’t the 2010s version of blaxploitation. I have no desire to see the Justice Avengers. :smiley:

1st movie? They’ve been around since before Thor had a comic book named “Thor.” They are original Stan Lee characters that existed before I was born. And I’m old.

What sets the Marvel movies apart and has made them successful is the humor. Sorry that ship has sailed and Joss Whedon was at the helm. And now he’s doing the same for Justice League since the dark and humorless route wasn’t working great for DC.
If they want to say the blonde was Valkyrie’s girlfriend who cares. It’s meaningless anyway unless it’s on the screen. I took that brief glimpse to be a nod a what the character looks like in the comic book.

I always find it funny when people seek out information outside of a film and then complain that they don’t like the information. If I were worried I’d find out they intend a character to be gay, I’d choose not to seek out that information.

In 2017, a “how dare they make characters gay” comment is pretty eyerolling, though.

Not at all. I’m rolling my eyes about the fact that there was absolutely nothing implied in the movie in any way, shape or form that she is or could be gay. But simply because she survived an attack because a woman sacrificed herself for her, there are now people saying she’s gay, or desperately want her to be.

I sought out no additional information, it was in stories that are in websites/publications that I already visit. And the issue isn’t whether or not she’s gay…I could give a shit about that…it’s more frustrating to me that someone has to be something all the time.

I took it the exact same way. She’s pained because she’s the last of her guild, and the reason she’s alive is because one of her squadmates took the bullet…er…arrow, for her and that’s why she’s alive. She has wicked survivor’s guilt about it which is why she drinks all the time and ran away.

What does that mean? (Happy to take this to a different thread.)

It was a cut scene.

Yup, the Warriors Three were introduced in Journey Into Mystery (the book which had introduced Thor) #119, in 1965, and have been recurring characters ever since.

I believe that they’re still active in the comics; Volstagg, in particular (spoilered for recent events in the current comic book):

The normally-jovial Volstagg was driven mad by seeing elf children murdered by Malekith’s Dark Elves, and became the War Thor, a bloodthirsty berserker.

Titus Pullo (Ray Stevenson’s character in the HBO series Rome) and Chuck Bartowski (Zachary Levi’s character in the NBC series Chuck) were in this and the earlier Thor movies? I didn’t notice that, or if I did, I don’t remember it.

I have a question for the Comic Book fans.

I’m a myths and legends guy. So to me **Sif **was known for little else except her golden hair and pretty much being a living divine prize. Was she always a brunette in the comic books?

I know it is silly, but this bothers me as it was her defining characteristic.

I looked it up after I saw the first Thor movie because I was confused as well. If I recall correctly, Marvel Sif’s hair is made of nothing rather than gold and is black. I don’t know if this is part of her characterization in the MCU, though.

As someone who grew up reading the norse myths, the whole Marvel Asgard conceit is confusing and slightly frustrating.

Same for me, but somehow Sif bothered me the most.

What about the remains of Mjolnir? Are they destined to remain on a cliff in Norway until picked up by a worthy hiker? Can the hammer be reforged?

Only at Rivendell (Imladris)I would assume.

Decades before they cast a brunette for the movie, they’d done a comic-book story where she lost the golden hair (due to Loki) and then got dark hair (due to Loki).

(Loki’s kind of a dick.)

Chuck played Fandrel in the second Thor movie and I guess this one (he died too quick to get a good look). In the first Thor movie the character was played by Josh Dallas (Prince Charming) before he got busy working on Once Upon a Time.

Moreso in the first movie, though they were still clearly supporting characters.

In “Thor,” the Warriors Three, along with Sif and Loki, travel with Thor to Jotunheim to fight the Frost Giants (early in the film), after several Frost Giants had broken into Odin’s vault in an attempt to steal the Casket of Ancient Winters. They also appear later in the film, when they, and Sif, go to New Mexico to convince Thor to return to Asgard.

In “The Dark World,” the Warriors Three had a much smaller role. In an early scene, Thor, Sif, Fandral, and Volstagg are repelling invaders on Vanaheim (Hogun’s homeworld), and Hogun thanks them for their assistance. Later, when Thor and Loki are sneaking out of Asgard to confront Malekith, Fandral and Volstagg (along with Sif) provide assistance for their escape. (And, in the mid-credits scene, Volstagg accompanies Sif as they give the Aether to the Collector.)

Note: in “Thor,” Fandral was played by Joshua Dallas – Zachary Levi had been cast to play the role, but wasn’t able to do so (due to the shooting schedule of “Chuck,” IIRC), and then the first replacement Fandral, Stuart Townsend, was replaced by Dallas just before filming. Levi took the role back on for “The Dark World,” when Dallas was unavailable due to shooting “Once Upon a Time,” and remained in the role for “Ragnarok.”

When I started reading the Thor book, in '85, she was already a brunette.

In the legends and stories, Loki is indeed a dick and the trickster of course.

He caused and cured many of the Asgardian’s problems. So he is somewhat like beer in that respect.

I believe she was only briefly blonde in the comics… probably in the 60s. She’s been dark haired for the majority of the character’s Marvel existence.