Can you elaborate on what you mean by “stop being so LOUD about it” and “shove down the throat of everyone you perceive as different”?
Is existing in public being loud about it? Going to a public restroom where they may obviously be transgender? Requesting people use specific pronouns for them? What actions are you specifically finding so offensive? Holding protests against policies aimed at limiting their rights?
Bingo!
Pick one. You can’t have both.
Why not? The terms aren’t synonymous.
What does it mean to ‘accept a person’s trangenderism’ if you do not accept the gender identity of that person whose transgenderism you supposedly accept?
I mean, that’s nice, but facts don’t care about your feelings. Transwomen are women, and I don’t really care if you feel otherwise. Your inability to accept reality is unfortunate but please don’t make it our problem.
Thanks! 
I suppose it depends on your definition of “transgender”. My brain is probably running on out-of-date terms and considers it to mean “intersex”. Intersex people by their very biology counter the notion that sex is binary and if somebody is a pedant or a jerk (or both) they could accurately say that the person is technically neither man nor woman.
The other definition of transgender, when the person is not intersex but has a cognitive disagreement with their non-brain biology, is harder for me (a pedant (and maybe a jerk)) to process, mostly because I’ve spent most of my life in places where I haven’t encountered such people and have shockingly little life experience. From a definitional standpoint I have a hard time dismissing the biology. So while I can recognize that the person is in a different category from the conventional cis dude, that doesn’t mean they’re in the definitional category of a conventional cis dudette.
As for what I want to do with such people, well, I don’t talk to other people in bathrooms anyway. You mind your business while you do your business, and I’ll mind mine.
Yes, I think any man over 6’ tall has a unfair advantage in basketball and should thus be banned. :D:p
High five.
I accept they will call themselves whatever they want. But still down deep in the DNA they are still one gender even if the body parts say otherwise.
And again, some people say they are non-binary and such. The OP even said he will keep some parts while having others removed. All the changes are thru medical interventions.
So I will accept them as a transgender “person”. Just like I can accept a person working in a non-traditional gender role such as a male nurse or a female mechanic.
What is the problem with that?
Good points.
You don’t know what gender means. That’s okay, it’s a complicated subject, but before you tell someone that they’re “not a woman” on the basis of something you don’t actually know or understand, maybe you should learn a thing or two about it. Again: facts don’t care about your feelings.
The FACT is they became a “woman” thru medical intervention. Has nothing to do with feelings.
They are a man who didnt like being a man so he used modern medicine to change his appearance to be more female like. I’ll accept that just as I’ll accept a persons desire to cover their body in tattoos and body piercings.
Concepts like “man” and “woman” are language specific and human created. They’re not natural laws, or anything like that. Chromosomes are biology, but in our language, those words aren’t referring to chromosomes - they’re referring to a complicated set of physical, behavioral, cultural, etc., characteristics that we humans have associated with those words. These definitions have changed/evolved in varying degrees over time. And they’re evolving now as well. Language is not immutable fact.
You can choose to stick with older definitions of these words, if you want, but that’s a choice you’re making, and others may be critical of you for making that choice, just as others may be critical of those who have refused to accept new understandings of words like marriage and family.
And this you know from your extensive medical qualifications?
So, what about those who have “body parts” for both genders?
Tradition is not medical, nor is it science. It is an aspect of culture.
What would you say to society accepting you as “person” as opposed to accepting you as a person? You really don’t see the difference, the condescension there?
Yes, the title of this thread was explicitly a reference to the “I’m sick of trans stuff” thread that someone else mentioned upstream.
I got overwhelmed with the comments here, which is why I haven’t responded in a while. Again, a lot of it quickly became a discussion of whether trans people are the gender they claim to be, which isn’t really an issue I think about in my day-to-day life. A number of people here have confessed that they don’t have a solid grasp of “gender identity”, and to be honest, I don’t either. I simply feel like myself. That being said, I feel far more comfortable on estrogen therapy and moving through the world socially “as a woman”, however you want to interpret that.
People seem way more eager to discuss trans people in sport. I personally have absolutely no interest in competitive sport, but I can share my experience on hormone therapy. If we imagine the distribution of male athleticism or physical strength, I was always on the weak tail-end. That being said, I was still stronger than most cisgender women. I’ve been on estrogen for a little over a year now, and my T levels are very low – perhaps too low. I’ve recently been arm-wrestling cisgender women for my own curiosity – not an official study, merely an anecdote. I started transitioning at 32, so whatever natural male advantages I have should be present. Most matches involve a stalemate for a solid minute or so, culminating in me gradually losing, and sore arms for both participants. I’ve won only one match, against a 5’2" woman who weighs about 100 lbs, and that was not easy. My sister-in-law destroys me, like 3… 2… 1… SLAM. Men will flip me out of the chair. I’m the first trans person most of my friends know closely, and the majority of us are science nerds, so this is all interesting and slightly funny to us – because like a lot of people participating in this discussion, we did not expect me to waste away into enfeeblement.
Conventional thought about hormone therapy in trans circles says that I should continue to see changes for about four more years. I’m honestly worried about just how far this is going to go, not from the sense of internal self-fulfillment, but from a practical safety point-of-view. I’ve been in terrifying situations where I’ve been grabbed, clearly with the expectation that, “as a man”, I’d be able to free myself with my naturally manly strength. That doesn’t happen.
All this being said, I don’t know the science or the studies that people like McKinnon elude to. I do think that the observation that there have been no trans Olympians holds some weight. Furthermore, while I’m usually hesitant to point to intersex people to make my own points, but I believe Castor Semenya has some form of hyperandrogenism? If so, she also has had the effects of high testosterone act on her body, presumably from puberty onward. She’s got broad shoulders and narrow hips, much like me. What’s the relevant difference between me and her? (Relevant with regard to sport. I know what’s between my legs.)
My wife thinks that a solution would be some sort of division based about weight, hormone levels, and other biological markers, similar to welterweight, heavyweight, etc in boxing. I don’t think science is at that point yet, and I question whether that’s even a viable solution in theory. If it is, while an organization like the Olympics can handle the logistics, a high school cannot.
To me, the important question is: If sport is a human right, like the IOC claims, how can we ensure that trans people can participate? The solutions that several posters here suggest, I assume, would have trans men playing against cis women. If so, we’re going to see a dominance of trans men. Does that bother you?
Trans men presumably take substances that would be considered performance enhancing drugs under standard ciswomen drug tests, so they shouldn’t compete together. The only real option that makes sense is making the men’s events include cismen, transmen and transwomen. It sucks for trans on both sides of the transition, and they’ll probably never win an elite event in gender-divided sports, but that’s a very minor price to pay for bodily freedom.
I’m sort of loath to respond to another sports What-if, but the tests for performance enhancing drugs is a test for a range. Athletes are tested for, let’s say testosterone, and if they score in the allowable range (which usually includes a little extra than most people make on their own) then that’s the problem. If a transman has the the same amount of testosterone in their blood as a cisman, then their is no problem.
I’ll stick with the classic definitions of what a man is and what a woman is thank you.
The problem is that those classic definitions 1) do not fit everybody and 2) have changed from place to place and culture to culture.
An example of the evolution of “traditional gender roles” that always makes me want to bang heads open to see whether there’s anything inside: barely 150 years ago, a woman who was neither a nun nor a camp follower caused a ruckus by treating wounded soldiers in the field. Nowadays male nurses find resistance 
(note that many militaries refer to males in medical roles who are not doctors as “medic”, not “nurse”, when the same functions are “nurse” in civilian life).
You are free to do that, and others are free to call you a bigot for making statements they find bigoted based on these choices you make.