Yes, yes, so lets glorify them and make them “celebrities”! :rolleyes:
What the fuck is wrong with people?
I watched a bit of this the other night and it is indeed frightening (of what passes for entertainment on TV today)!
However, I have a few questions:
-Where does the money come from? I assumed that the Feds siezed a lot of the late Don’s money…she seems to be very well off!
-the sons are absolute morons! Foul-mothed and irritating as well…remember the oldest one screaming that somebody DARED to use his hair gell? What an idiot! If these three are budding Mafia dons, then we have nothing to worry about!
-do real Italian-Americans allow their kids to eat that crap? They seem tolive on junk food!
Don Corleone would be spinning in his grave! 
Still, I wanna dry hump them all.
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Hijack…
A&E has really gone in the tank. It hasn’t had a lot of Arts since the late '80s and even the Entertainment is missing now… I know, I know opinions differ.
A&E is overweighted on
true crime- City Confidential, American Justice, Cold Case Files
fake crime- Crossing Jordan, Third Watch, Murder She Wrote
“reality” (Gottis, Dog The Biounty Hunter, Airline, Family Plots)
bad movies (it’s Rocky week, and all are on, but IV and V are shown 4 times each! And Burt Reynolds in “Paternity”)
But now, The Biography Channel is what A&E was, say, five years ago. A lot more balanced. Except when it ain’t… I like Night Court but a 12-hour seems a bit much! Or 21 hours of Poirot!
Oh well it’s just TV.
Ah, perspective.
I haven’t seen the show. I cut & pasted this from a NYT interview. I think some of you will find it interesting.
And by “find it interesting” I mean “find out you were jumping to conclusions like dumb asses.”
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Your new reality show, ‘‘Growing Up Gotti,’’ follows your travails as a single mother trying to raise three strapping teenage boys in a mansion on Long Island.
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People look at my home and assume it’s an inheritance from Dad, mob money. But guess what? No. Not five cents. I built my home, and I made it the neighborhood hangout because I would rather my kids be here than at someone else’s house.
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Italian mothers and Jewish mothers are often characterized as overly possessive.
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And I have both in my bloodlines. My mother is one-fourth Russian-Jewish. The guilt, forget it.
I have so much guilt.
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Judging from the show, your sons never leave the house.
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They’re not allowed to go on sleepovers, but their friends can always sleep at my house. Anyone who knows me will tell you that I am the den mother for all the kids in the neighborhood. For spring break, I took nine kids to Miami. It’s an episode on my show.
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Do you not let them stay at other people’s houses because you worry about them being kidnapped? Your father, John Gotti, certainly had his share of enemies.
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It’s not that. When I was growing up, my father never let us go on sleepovers. I used to say, ‘‘You don’t trust me.’’ He would say: ‘‘I trust you. It’s the other people I don’t trust.’’
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Do your sons ever see their father, Carmine Agnello, who is serving time for racketeering, arson and tax fraud?
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He’s somewhere in Ohio. He’s not in their lives as much as I wish he would be. I encourage it. We are divorced.
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And your brother, John A. Gotti, is also serving time. He was just indicted for planning the murder of Curtis Sliwa, the founder of the Guardian Angels.
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It’s very painful, and my heart is with John. My children see my brother often, every two or three months. My brother was a very big force in their lives.
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Do you worry about keeping the children away from lives of crime?
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No. My kids are in the fanciest prep schools on Long Island, and they are honor students. I was always a stickler for education with my kids.
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Where were you educated?
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I was a nerd. When I was 7 years old, the hangout for me was the Brooklyn Public Library.
I graduated from St. John’s University. I started law school there, but in the 11th hour I realized I didn’t want to be a lawyer. I was too shy.
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Why do you write a gossip column for Star magazine, which seems very far from a legal career?
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I am the executive editor at large. And the legal department at Star is second to none.
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How can you make peace with the legacy of your father, a convicted murderer?
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My dad was my hero. He was my biggest cheerleader. People can say whatever they want about my dad, but at the end of the day, that man was passionate about his family. He loved barbecuing.
He loved throwing the grandkids in the car and taking them out shopping.
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Did you see him all those years when he was in solitary confinement at the federal penitentiary in Marion, Ill.?
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It traumatized me to watch him suffer like he did, having cancer in prison. We were allowed to see him through glass, through a partition. We couldn’t touch him.
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Wasn’t he eventually moved to a prison hospital?
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It broke my heart. His arms were tied to the bed. He was trapped like an animal. I used to love to visit him, even toward the end when he was in a coma. I think I suffer from the Scarlett O’Hara syndrome.
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Which syndrome is that?
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Tomorrow, there’s always tomorrow. Forget that you missed out today
I couldn’t sleep last night so I caught the latest episode of this, while channel-surfing. Vicki works for “People” magazine? She was planning a dinner party for her boss, and was having some flunkey order dinner ware from Fortunoff-is she really that rich?
The kids amused themselves by providing valet parking for the guests…one guest got pissed at little Guido for grinding the gears on his $80,000 BMW roadster.
Home life at the Gottis consistsof the usual “screaming at the top of your lungs”…and eating junk food.
Also, I had NO idea how bidg the mansion is…yet they never seem to move out of the kitchen! I like the eway the son’s dress-sort of a “suburban pimp” motif…heavy on the neck chains and backward baseball caps. Real classy folk, those Gottis!
You know you are right. Why didn’t I bother to read several vague, self-serving comments before joining the “dumbasses” who were “jumping to conclusions”.
It’s all there in the “interview” in the New York Times.
The money she has and the house she has, she didn’t get a single penny from her criminal scum father or her criminal scum husband. How do we know? Well, if we weren’t jumping to conclusions like dumbasses we would see that she TOLD us that she didn’t.
Let’s see, she is the daughter of a mobster, and her brother is a mobster, and her husband is a mobster. But she never got any financial support from any of them. And again, we know that because of one sentence in a puff piece in the New York Times Magazine, when she says “People look at my home and assume it’s an inheritance from Dad, mob money. But guess what? No. Not five cents”
See how she renounces her father and all the evil that he perpetrated in the world. It’s right there when she says “my dad was my hero.” And see how she renounces the evil that her brother committed “It’s very painful, and my heart is with John. My children see my brother often, every two or three months. My brother was a very big force in their lives.” This is the brother who is in jail for plotting to murder somebody.
Don’t take the “dumb asses” bit personally. (Even tho’ personal insults are a big no-no around here.)
Frankly, I agree with you, constantine. I want more than just her word that she earned that money herself. And her blase attitude towards her family’s criminal history is more than a bit disconcerting.
Well, since it’s the kids who are growing up, why isn’t the show called “Growing up, Agnello” ?
After all, her late father is the famous Gotti, and if the show isn’t about him and has nothing to do with him and the wealth displayed didn’t come from him, why is his name in the title?
It’s rhetorical, of course. The show rather creepily plays on a criminal’s reputation while trying to distance itself from it.
I saw a bit of this week’s show…actually quite funny! Son Guido is sulking and mouthing off to his mother…she vows to “teach him some respect”-you go girl!
And that old italian guy who maintains the place-he’s like a throwback to the “mustache Petes” of the early 19th century! The dialogue between her and this guy is hilarious! (He is quoting her a price to fix their lavish, though brojken swimming pool):
Victoria: 15,000..whaddaya think I am made of money?
Old Italian: Well thatsa to fixa everything..jacuzzi, filter, waterfall, itsa expensive!
Victoria: Well, I just want the damn pool to operate!
Old Italian: Thatsa differnta story; for thatta I can do it for ubbout 3-4 thousand.
Victoria:OK, you fix it, I pay you!
From her expensively sculptured boobs, to her peroxide-blond hair, and her fake tan, this woman screams “No Class”! And her sons…I expect that they will be tenants at the local jail before long (though Ma probably has a good “Mob” lawyer on retainer!
You have to watch it…it is really hilarious!
…how much Guido spends every week on mousse for his hair?
Every time you see him, he is smoothing more grease into his hair! :smack: