Tipping in America: the insult tip

Maybe that was the purpose of his trip.
The heart is a dark forest.

Hollandaise sans lemon ruined the whole damn trip, I’m guessing.

Who eats that junk, anyway? Take your eggs like a man! :wink:

Hah! Raw eggs in smoothies are excellent, giving the finished drink more body. But, yeah, just straight up from a glass is yech.

Bleurgh advocaat :frowning:

Mayhap it was a Lonely Hearts trip and it didn’t pan out for him. Lot of dosh to throw at a Lonely Hearts trip, but humans are an odd lot.

Why should I start threads about the eclipse - which was awesome - when others have already done so?

BTW I’m now at the Grand Canyon.

Some good points there I think. Waiters in high price restaurants, and the most expensive also tend to be in areas like ours (NY) where lots of people have money to burn and view it as their social justice duty to tip more than 20%, certainly aren’t itching for ‘tip culture’ to go away. At the extreme those jobs are gold mines relative to the qualifications required, guys (it usually is at the top of the table server pyramid) sometimes pass those jobs along to their sons in some famous places.

OTOH it’s fair to point out that median nationwide it’s not a lucrative job, though as you point out tricky to make an exact comparison with reported income since tax cheating is particularly widespread in food service.

But very broadly speaking the pay in relatively low skilled jobs is comparable: much as some people reflexively resist the idea, in the long run it’s a labor market. People don’t tend to work permanently in jobs that pay less than easier ones they also have the skills for and which pay more. IOW the posts recognizing that the issue is basically one of the distribution of pay in the labor market, not pay for waiters particularly, are at least partly on target.

But then it comes back to how questionable it is to try raise pay for all low paying jobs far above the market clearing level via government mandates to employers. Raise it a bit and the negative side effects might get lost or offset by secondary and tertiary effects that aren’t fully reflected in introductory econ textbooks. But raise it a lot and it emerges into the zone where it really is ‘Econ 101’ that it’s going to have serious negative side effects. To raise people’s income a lot over what their skills are actually worth in the market, and avoid lots of negative side effects, you have to either subsidize them directly (take money from other people, cut govt checks to the lower paid people) or come up with policies that raise lower paid people’s skills (ie more people would have the skills to command higher market wages doing something else, which would feedback to higher wages in food service, retail counter etc , for the remaining people, though somewhere in their might also factor in not allowing the low skilled labor force to expand without limit from countries with lower prevailing wages).

Thank you both of you for demonstrating what nasty little idiots you both are. Clearly neither of you have done a search of my posts.

Btw I’m now at the Grand Canyon and enjoyed dinner with moose grazing only perhaps 20 feet away.

I take umbrage at your insult; I happen to be average height and weight for a woman my age in the US. And I’m quite familiar w/ your posts, Quartz; IIRC you spent nearly $5000 USD on this trip. :eek:

This is a warning for personal insults. If you have a problem with a poster or two take it to the Pit.

Uh, that’s an elk. Moose live in temperate boreal forests. Moose - Wikipedia

True. But w/ the sun nearly set it can be hard to tell them apart if you haven’t seen the distinctive moose face before.

ETA - or he’s at Yellowstone thinking he’s at the Grand Canyon.

As for the Hollandaise sauce/lemon thing. Hollandaise doesn’t have to have lemon as its acid. That’s the most common, but a vinegar can also be used as the acidifying agent.

Huh. The only moose I’ve ever seen in Arizona was on my television and he was accompanied by a squirrel wearing goggles.

I did do a search on your recent posts before asking the question. I didn’t see anything, but I was curious as to how you were enjoying things. :frowning:

or he could be at the Grand Canyon of the Yellowstone

A boreal one, with desert moose.

What a dreadful naming choice. Do they also have an equally confusing Carlsbad Cavern of the Yellowstone?

Jerkish thing to do.

Is anyone else curious as to what the “generous” tip left the previous nite was?