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I strongly disaprove of them for this.
Clinging to racist symbols and insisting they are innocuous is hardly unique. Perhaps we can discuss it this weekend at a Braves game?
Yeah, but in Kentucky they’re *really *racist, they don’t just have no black people in sight because they’d be inconvenient.
(Sorry, too cheap to pass up)
The Braves are not a public entity. The state of South Carolina is. The fact that a bigoted symbol is flying over public lands is what makes the case unique.
Right - and the point of this thread is that someone is complaining because the rest of us are looking at the Confederate flag being flown by Southern State Governments and concluding that the Southern State Governments are racist, as are the people who voted for them and approve flying the flag.
So y’all want to keep the flag cause it gives you the warm fuzzies of younger days, LS concerts and summer nights, when it all felt innocuous? Is that about it?
I can’t believe it needs to be pointed out to you that it didn’t feel innocuous to everyone. No indeed. That it didn’t to you only demonstrates you didn’t care, really, what it meant to anybody else.
You want to keep it because of warm fuzzy feelings and can’t understand the loathing in those whose feelings run much, much deeper and are anything but warm and fuzzy.
That’s a pretty big disconnect right there, if you ask me.
Really?
Where do the Braves play?
Turner Field.
Who owns that?
The Atlanta-Fulton County Recreation Authority.
The stadium is a public building…
We could go Chief wahoo on public stadiums in Cleveland, the Redskins in Dc.
In fact, I bet in most public buildings over 30 years old we will find displayed something pretty damn offensive.
Again, I don’t think any of this is ok, I just think little naive to think that the Southern States government’s behavior is somehow unique. If anything, it’s depressingly common.
At any rate seem to determined to disagree with me about something, so there it is.
It’s probably a bit more complex than that, but basically, yes.
The flag needs to come down
Hoo boy. Thank God for square brackets…
Alright. So now that we’ve established that the South flying the Confederate battle flag is a unique case of a public entity associating itself with a symbol of bigotry, can you tell us how “the ignorant people out there” have incorrectly “(made) the South out to be some sort of unique villain”?
But some states are smart enough to recognize that and did something about it.
You know that’s a pretty common issue people bring up, right?
Okay, how about we show DOH completely un-CGI’d, but change its name to [Annoyed Grunt]?
Shagnasty, I highly recommend you read Isabel Wilkerson’s The Warmth of Other Suns.
I think you’d learn a lot.
Believe it or not, the battle flag was just an example that only took up two sentences in my OP yet that is the only thing everyone is focusing on. The thread isn’t about the flag specifically and I don’t own one. It is about generalized stereotyping and bigotry against what is nowthe most populous region of the U.S. I can promise you that Southerners could burn every single battle flag in existence and it wouldn’t make a bit of difference a year from now because anti-Southern prejudices are buried so deep in too many people. They will just find yet another reason to justify their preconceived notions.
I’m sorry that you feel like a victim of prejudice. How about we take the flag out of the public square, then we’ll deal with other issues as they come up?
And for lots of good reasons. The South elects most of the worst public officials in the nation. The South has the worst laws regarding abortion The South has the most conservative judges. The South produces people like Ted Cruz, Rick Perry, Mike Huckabee, Bobby Jindal, Marco Rubio, and on and on. Justice Roy Moore comes from the South. I like many things about our Southern states, but as a region (and speaking in broad terms) there is a lot to find fault with.
The South doesn’t have a monopoly on stupid (I’m looking at you, Alaska and Wyoming) but it does seem to be concentrated there.
NM. North & South is not fixable, any more than the Middle East is. The relationship is fucked up and it always will be.
**Or it could have been “Let’s just make our flag a big ole picture of somebody pouring sugar into a glass of iced tea.” **:smack:
NO. Just no. You put the sugar in, let it dissolve, THEN the ice. If you do it your way it is just tea with sugar at the bottom, not sweet tea!
I just don’t understand why people from other areas don’t get this:o
BTW, Scylla you are now my favorite poster
Your flag really ought to feature the good stuff from the south – shrimp and grits, she crab soup, fried okra, fried chicken and a nice slice of sweet potato pie. Maybe throw in a pic of North Carolina beaches and downtown Savannah. That sounds much better to this northerner.