You know, it’s interesting that you say that, because I was skimming over some old threads and found this:
From here:
So the very thing you declare here as jerkish behavior is almost verbatim what you declared in a previous thread to be crazy to consider jerkish behavior. Which is it?
Here’s what you’ve never gotten. You repeat over and over again that these threads are a special concession to me, personally, as one person, to be allowed special protection against Game of Thrones spoilers (because, naturally, I’m illiterate and resent books). But you miss the point. I’m not asking for special treatment for myself. I’m just the one that took the effort to organize an effort to improve the quality of those threads. I did a public service. I was proactive in trying to come up with methods to improve the discussion for both the show and for book discussion about the show.
My motivation was never “how do I get the mods to create a special rule so I’m protected from knowing books exist”, but rather “how do we create useful discussions out of the clusterfucks that these threads have been so far?”
You’ve made this about me over and over again - in multiple threads - as if I personally am asking for special rules for myself. But that wasn’t my intent. I was being proactive in trying to create a better place for discussions on this board - for book readers and non-book readers. Someone else could’ve stepped up besides me, but I tend to take the initiative and put forth the effort to get things done.
I don’t see how these are analogous at all. In one case, I was trying to save the game room from death on an issue that everyone could plainly see would benefit the boards, but management was dragging their butts on. In the other case, you are trying to actively squash discussion that you feel that caters to people who are beneath you, because you are such an amazing person that you read a series of fantasy novels.
It’s not about a truce between you and I. The problem is that we’ve tried soft rules about spoilers and being a jerk. And with ambiguous, soft rules, people either make bad judgments about what other people consider spoilers, or they deliberately try to skirt the lines. There are certain posters who are very angry at the very idea that we have a non-book thread. And they show their displeasure by trying to ruin what they can within the rules. See these posts from your failed pit thread as evidence that I’m not the only one to notice this.
You, yourself, in the OP in this very thread, say that saying “don’t get too attached to that character wink” is clearly jerkish behavior. And yet in a previous thread, when someone said that was jerkish behavior, you called that crazy. But we’re supposed to let everything be a free for all and the poster determine what’s jerkish behavior?
There are discussions in which comparisons between the books and the show are open and encouraged. No one is stifling your ability to compare the show to the books. But the show is its own artistic entity that stands separate from the books. Someone could very reasonably enjoy the show without even knowing they’re based on books. And so we can have a discussion about the show as its own entity. Without people deciding for themselves what’s a spoiler and what isn’t, and then having endless fights about that person’s definition of a spoiler.
The hard “the books don’t exist” rule have clearly been successful. Those threads, for 3 years now, have been almost entirely on track, civil, and productive discussions. The rule is working. Many people are thankful for the rule, which you ignore when you try to assert that it’s a special rule just for me personally.
There is no need to mention the books in a thread specifically geared towards evaluating the show as its own artistic endeavor. Allowing such would create situations in which one writer didn’t think something was a spoiler and some readers did. Which would ensue in a fight over what constitutes a spoiler, and we’re back to the season 1 clusterfuck.
The current system is working. No one is being stopped from discussing what they want - and there are separate threads with separate rules.
