I’m not complaining about people talking about it. I posted as much to the other thread as anyone. I’m posting to this one. I’m talking about people hurling insults and invective at each other over it. Patriots fans as much as anyone else. Pop music is also a multi-billion dollar industry, and people who insult fans of this pop star or that one are also acting stupidly.
I have no idea what that means.
The temperature argument is goddamned absurd. The balls are expected to be inflated to a pressure range on the field, not the 90-degree room inside the stadium.
Dammit! You outfoxed the investigators, who failed to give any consideration to the temperature/sauna argument. I’ll call ESPN.
More on topic, this is all on point with the Pats fan at work. The Bengals, Packers, Giants, and Cowboys fans all talk shit about whatever rhetoric is in the news, but whenever it’s Boston’s turn to have a scandal he’ll get defensive to the point where he gets mad at people for even bringing the subject up.
I’ll send the five bucks I owe you for jsgoddess-to-English translation. 
I’m sure ESPN’s covered it to death, but I still know at least one guy who thinks nothing “immoral” was done because it could all have been a simple mistake by someone not thinking about the temperature difference. I’d imagine the report covers that subject, but I’m not going to ask Mr. Pats Fan what he thinks about it.
In all of this lets not lose sight of what is important.
Did you miss the part where you wrote really dumbass things about what constitutes cheating? I don’t give a rats ass if everyone you’ve been locking horns with in this discussion is a hypocritical dick, it doesn’t change that you’re either stupid or a poor communicator.
There’s a solid 100 pages covering the temperature and environmental angle. Essentially temperature almost certainly accounted for some pressure drop but couldn’t account for all of it. And there was a statistically significant difference between the pressure drop of the Colts balls and Patriots balls. That plus the text messages is enough to convince me.
Oh, man, does the report cover it! And cover it. And cover it. With pretty little graphs and everything.
Maybe sometime today I’ll take a break from making graphs to look at those graphs.
You don’t need to see this latest crap to realize that he’s a douchebag – he’s long been one of the nastiest pieces of work on these boards from this mostly-lurker’s point of view. Consistently a hostile, whiny, ugly-minded jackass who can’t participate in a discussion without going into rabid dog mode. Ugh.
I don’t give a rats ass about sports. Fuck, I have to think about it a bit before I know if its baseball season, football season, basketball season or rabbit season.
Further more I have several hobbies in that my opinion that are chock full of interesting, smart, capable, and open minded people. I’d also be hard pressed to identify any of those I know as giving much more than a cursory fuck about sports.
Having said that, given an unwanted education due to the inability to totally block my exposure to pop media sports news…
I laughed my ass off at the latest deflate gate revelations. I hope holy hell rains down on the cheating muther fuckers.
Brady’s agent’s response to the Wells report was to, in part, call it “a sting operation”.
Because, you know if you don’t tell someone you’re investigating their rulebreaking, and they go ahead and break the rules, then they’re not at fault. It’s that simple.
He also called it a biased report, because Wells was appointed by the NFL and is not a neutral arbiter. Yes, I’m sure the NFL is desperate to find an excuse to suspend its most marketable* player and cast a pall over the legitimacy of its 2014-15 season.
*Possibly “most marketable player not named Peyton.”
Forget it, naita. He’s too stupid to understand he’s wrong.
It’s at least heartening that even those disagreeing with the OP aren’t taking Elvis’ side. There are three groups in this thread:
People who think **ElvisL1ves **is a stupid douchebag who thinks emoticons are arguments,
People who [del]don’t watch TV, don’t even OWN a TV[/del] [del]actually read Game of Thrones so you’re the one who’s not well-read[/del] want us all to know caring about a silly game like pro football is so beneath them, even though that’s not the issue, and
ElvisL1ves, all by his lonesome.
I’ve read the thread twice, and I haven’t noticed any of these people.
You misunderstand me. I’m not criticizing people for getting into sports or caring about the outcomes. I’m okay with that. What I’m criticizing is becoming partisan in so transparent a way, over something so minor in the grand scheme of things, that it’s absurd.
Like, for example, a defender on red team clearly interferes with a receiver on blue team. Fan of blue team screams “that’s obviously pass interference!” and the fan of red team says “nope, not at all, what are you talking about?!”
And then a few minutes later, a defender on blue team clearly interferes (to the same degree) with a receiver on red team. The red team fan screams “That’s pass interference! It’s obvious!” and the fan of blue team says “Nope! Not at all! That’s not remotely interference”
What I’m saying is that someone who can’t recognize their own biases in such an obvious, inconsequential situation in which their world view is not under threat, and they’re full blown blind apologists/denialists over it - if they can’t clear that extremely low mental hurdle - then they have no chance of becoming enlightened in areas that actually do matter, and which their biases substantiate their worldviews. If you can’t see you’re biased to a reality-denying extent over sports, how would you ever see it on something more substantial?
(also, your little crossed out statement is retarded, since I’ve never criticized anyone for not watching Game of Thrones. I only criticized a guy who called people who didn’t read the series illiterate)
I really haven’t read the thread so I don’t know. But if you’re going to pull the ‘I told you so’ now that this information has been released, the OP had better provide evidence for his position back when the topic was originally discussed.
Otherwise everyone at the time was guessing and the person who happened to be right doesn’t have much to crow upon now.