To the bitch who is divorcing my friend

I can’t believe I tried to be friendly to you. I can’t believe I stood up for you on numerous occasions. I can’t believe I emailed you on a daily basis and got you presents and tried to be such a wonderful person to you.

YOU are a BITCH. I don’t call very many women that, but you deserve it fully.

I didn’t like you at first. You were obnoxious and too loud, and you said the most stunningly tactless things. But my friend had finally found himself someone he could love, and after my initial hesitation I decided to welcome you with an open heart.

Even when I was friendly, I still didn’t like what I saw in you. I thought you could be nice when you chose to be, but most of the time you just liked to hurt people’s feelings, especially my friend’s. You had an enormously inflated opinion of yourself. You made me read your gaggingly horrible writing and then tell you what I thought. You wanted me to fawn all over you and compliment you on the stupidest of things, like how well you take pictures.

And then you and my friend decided to move into his mother’s house. His mother was undergoing long kidney treatments, and was very sickly. Instead of helping out whenever you could, you decided you hated her and everything in the house was awful. When my friend had to take her to the hospital, you whined because she wasn’t really sick.

You bitched to me incessantly about her, who had only tried to be kind to you. I listened sympathetically because my own mother-in-law is an asshole, but when I suggested things to you to help your situation you didn’t want any of it. You just wanted sympathy and someone to tell you that you were right in the way you felt.

Not happy with telling my friend night and day what an awful mother he had and how awful the house was (that you were staying in rent-free), you decided that he couldn’t control his own money. You made him give you every cent he earned, and you doled it out like he was cutting off parts of you. You lived off of him for almost a year before you got a job (which you bitched about to me, although you never looked for another one).

Then you got married. I didn’t think this was a good idea, but no one listens to me. You were such an ass about every single detail of the ceremony that I felt embarrassed being around you. You were an ass when you told me the exact dollar amount your daddy paid, and you were an ass when you pointed out that my friend’s sick mother didn’t contribute a single dime (she was poor, and she was already letting you live in her house for free, you bitch).

You were especially an ass when you didn’t give a shit what my friend was wearing, or even if he was appearing in the ceremony.

His mother finally got a kidney. You were a bitch about that. You made my friend buy a house shortly afterwards, because you couldn’t stand being around his sick mother. When she had complications, you acted like it was interfering with your personal schedule. My friend had to stay with her for some hours while she cried and vomited, and you sat around, playing role-playing games with your friends and bitched because my friend was always leaving you to go to HER.

When she died you didn’t care. You said you were relieved. Now my friend didn’t have to spend any time with her and could devote everything to you. And when he didn’t, you forced him to go to counseling, threatening him with separation. You told the counselor that you wanted my friend to change and pay more attention to you.

You will never get enough attention, you greedy spiteful bitch.

He tried to change. He stopped seeing anyone but you. He started asking you for things in a pleading way, and I can’t explain what way that was, but I know that it pleased you to hear him beg. You were still unsatisfied.

About a month after his mother died, you gave him an ultimatum. If he didn’t start doing what you wanted, you would leave in six months.

Despite his best efforts, he didn’t live up to your expectations.

So this Monday you both went into the counselor’s office. You waltzed in and said, “I don’t love you anymore. I want a divorce.” The counselor was shocked, and you loved it.

That night you told my friend exactly what you wanted in the divorce settlement. You knew exactly what piece of furniture you wanted, you knew the decorations you were going to take. You knew, down to the penny, what you wanted him to pay you to get you out of his life. YOU HAD BEEN PLANNING THIS FOR WEEKS.

I talked to him today. He sounds like he is in shock, severe medical shock that causes the internal organs to shut down. He said that your last paycheck was not direct deposited – the check that was supposed to be deposited on Tuesday. You had been hanging out with a girl who had also broken off a long engagement.

His mother is dead, his father has been dead for a while, and now you have left him and HE DOESN’T HAVE ANYONE LEFT AND IT’S YOUR OWN DAMNED SELFISH BITCHY SELF WHO HAS DONE THIS TO MY FRIEND. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. You complete asswipe of a shitheel scraggy bitch.

You had better not ask for anything more in the divorce proceedings, because you will NEVER know what happened to you.

Sorry to say it, but your friend sound a bit like a tool.

She does like a heartless bitch, though.

Damn, that really sucks. I don’t know what to say other than that I know how you feel. My absolute best-friend-for-life is marrying one of these next month and I’m not even allowed to be at the wedding. Not because she doesn’t like me - she doesn’t even know me - it’s just that she specifically forbids him to have friends.

Pit thread will be upcoming in the next year or two when they get divorced.

I am actually glad he is rid of her, even though it’s killing him. She was as bad for him as all those dialysis treatments were for his mother. You will probably be happy when the bitch your friend is marrying leaves him, even though it’ll rip his heart out by the roots.

I know he acted like a bit of a tool. What can I say? He loves her, although hopefully not for very long.

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Damn, that really sucks. I don’t know what to say other than that I know how you feel. My absolute best-friend-for-life is marrying one of these next month and I’m not even allowed to be at the wedding. Not because she doesn’t like me - she doesn’t even know me - it’s just that she specifically forbids him to have friends.

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Okay, I’ve been in an emotionally abusive relationship before but this is freaking ridiculous. How could any grown man or woman allow someone to forbid them to have friends?

Were you exaggerating here, or did she literally forbid him? And did she forbid him to have any friends, or did she just not like certain ones (not like this is any better)?

My mind just can’t grasp it.

It really is true that you’re only treated how you allow yourself to be treated. Scum sucking parasites will always be available to take advantage of the weak willed, but the people that are being treated this way still need to take some responsibility for allowing it, you know?

I’ve allowed boyfriends to alienate me from friends before. I’ve had boyfriends who have treated me like shit. I was more mad at myself than at them for it, for allowing them to have that much control over me and for allowing them to treat me that badly.

I’ve seen friends slowly disappear from social networks due to a controlling S.O. I’ve always thought the S.O. was an ass for sure, but I was always more pissed at my friends for allowing it.

The ultimate responsibility for how you’re treated in a relationship falls on your shoulders.

He sounds like an entire Home Depot, frankly.

Even though I’m angry that your friend let this woman manipulate him to the extent she did, I commend him for giving so much support to his mother when she was suffering with kidney disease. As a mother who has been going through this for the last few years, I know how much she would have appreciated every little thing he did for her.
Sounds like you’re a good friend which is probably just what he needs right now.

People will endure almost any amount of shitty behavior, as long as they get their requirement of acceptance. If someone seems to you like he or she can give you the kind of acceptance you need (the reasons and details of which barely matter), it sometimes seems like a smart choice to involve him or her in your life, often ruinously.

I’m sure the OP’s friend will understand, at least a little, of the difference between the acceptance he thought he was getting and what he actually got --someday. Right now, he’s in a bad place, and needs understanding, not judgment. Sure, he fucked up, and if he’s smart, he’ll figure out how to own it at some point. Right now, he’s probably not equipped to assess.

Understanding that it will take a while, the best thing he can do is support him as he understands the things he was looking for in marrying this person. It will take a while.

As your friend begins to pull out of his sorrow – and he will – help him to see his own strengths and worthiness so that he will never set his expectations so low again. He will need to learn to set boundaries about how he will and will not be treated. When he respects himself, he will be treated with respect by others or else he won’t want them in his life.

But right now, just be there for him.

And you are right – she sounds like a monster!

I’m really sorry to hear that. I know how painful dialysis treatments are. I hope you get a kidney soon, and I hope your children are as wonderful to you as they can be. She was on dialysis for many years, and they had nearly given up hope (her body was starting to give out on her, particularly her liver) when they got the call. It was amazing! I hope that happens to you soon.

I don’t think I ever said that the bitch forbade him to have any friends, lezlers. I think Cisco said that. What the bitch did was demand more time with him, and the guy was already in a full time job and going to school already. I think there was several months there I didn’t see him at all. And, of course, she would give him the guilt-trips and threats to leave him if he did want to see us.

I don’t know why he let her have so much control. I really don’t. I have some theories, however. His dad died pretty early, and he was faced with his mom’s illness for many years. He was very scared that she would die on him and he would be alone. He also had a strange relationship with women, too, maybe because if the impermanence of his home life. I’m just not sure.

I know he is a wonderful, giving, caring, loving person. If a woman decided that she wanted him, he would do anything for her. When he and the bitch first started going out he took her to the finest restaurants, moonlight walks, fine wines, limo rides, flowers, romance romance romance! He is a pure sweet goodhearted romantic.

What I really hate her the most for is that he is going to lose his trust in women entirely, for a long time. I hope he heals soon, and you know I will tell him just what a great person he is the entire time.

Actually me and my husband are going to go spend the entire weekend with him to cheer him up. I really don’t know how we’re going to keep from calling the bitch a spade, but we’ll try.

Please explain why you think the “guy” was a tool. I understand we only got one part of this 2-sided story . . .

Regards,
-IUchem

Well, it’s kinda the “fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on ME” thing. It’s one thing to be mistreated. Then you are a victim.

It’s another thing to be continually mistreated and stand there and take it when any sane man would bail out. I mean this guy should have a shirt made that says “kick me”. After a point, you have to take some responsibility for it. The OP makes no mention of the guy doing anything to stand up for himself. If even half of the OP’s story is true and she’s divorcing him…

That part of my post was directed at Cisco. I should have made that more clear.

Apologies.

Originally posted by Elysian:

You make it sound as though she killed his parents

I wouldn’t blame the guy for putting up with the abuse. Perhaps he just didn’t see that side of her until it was too late, then he was just trying to make it work despite all of the problems. Without further information I can’t make a clear judgement.

You just petted my peeve.

I once had a girlfriend who had acute renal failure. Her aunts were not impressed. They would say stuff like:

“Oh, she’s just faking it to get attention.”

“If she’d just stop smoking, she wouldn’t have these problems. She has no one to blame but herself.”

“She’s just doing this to be a burden on society. Those non-Catholics love to be welfare cases.”

“No child of mine is going to donate a kidney to that selfish girl. What has she ever done for them?”

One of the aunts actually forbade her daughters from even considering donating a kidney. The daughters openly defied their bitch of a mother and got tested anyway.

I just had to say what a great line that is.

I would suggest your friend get some counseling to find out why he is so willing to be a doormat.

Hopefully, he will learn from this experience and be better prepared to meet his true life-mate.

Please tell me there are no children in this equation.

I think it’s wonderful that you’re sticking by your friend in his time of need. He may well need time and space, but he also needs to know that someone cares.

Dude! Admit it! You want to fuck her! You might be the reason for your bud’s unhappiness!

Well nows your chance…rebound fucks are always the best! :wink:


She was somebody’s wife, but not mine, so it wasn’t like she was hurting ME!

Bitchy and demanding as this woman sounds, I’m not seeing her as the only problem in this relationship. It sounds like your buddy wasn’t being much of an equal partner. He’s working full-time, going to school full-time, taking care of Momma full-time, and wedging his wife in somewhere in between all the other stuff. Okay, Mom died a few months back, but he was spending a huge chunk of his limited free time with her for years, leaving him little time to devote to his marriage. Think about the prospect of spending years feeling like you’re on the back burner of your own spouse’s life. I don’t know a lot of relationships that could survive that, personally.

I don’t think it would take very long of living with a sick mother-in-law who took up a lot of your husband’s time, watching him drop anything and everything at any time of the day or night to go to her, and never being able to get away from her to make you feel like a third wheel in your own marriage. Since it’s not unreasonable to expect to be a priority in your husband’s life, I could see the situation making someone bitter and demanding, or making them want to just get the fuck out of Dodge. Hell, if I felt like work, school, and my mother-in-law all outranked me in Dr.J’s life, I’d probably walk out the door one morning and just keep on walking, myself.

Oh, and FYI, wanting your husband who works full-time, goes to school full-time, and takes care of his ailing mother full-time to spend what little time’s left over with you instead of with his buddies does not make you a bitch. It makes you someone who wants your husband to actually be your husband, not the guy who lives in your house and has sex with you sometimes and files his taxes with yours.