“Other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?”
I’ve been enjoying the minor league football playoffs quite a bit…can’t wait to see what poor NFC chumpions get served up for the 15-1 Steelers to whoop up on in Jacksonville 
I was cooking dinner in the kitchen (tacos, mmmmmmmm) when the play in question occurred, and therefore only heard the reaction of Joe Buck and Co… It sounded to me like Randy Moss had ACTUALLY mooned the crowd. Are you saying that he just pantomimed it? Give me a break!!!
I had the TV muted and read the captions about how “that was disgusting” and they were “sorry we had to see that.” I thought they were joking the way they do after any TV celebration.
With the possible exception of his helmet, no clothing came off even partway.
Randy Moss is a football god. It is not like he really mooned the crowd. Is it possible that the reason Randy gets shit in by everyone (and Favre is the second coming) is because Randy is proud black man who refuses to be subject to be the white man’s football ethics? I swear if Favre tried to walk on water and failed it would be the water’s fault. Of course when Randy has a great game, people have to find a way to destroy it. Randy, rock on with your bad self.
And in the lip read words of Randy - “Look at the mother fucking score.”
Great line. I might steal that.
So should everyone walk off the field before the game is over?
When Randy walked off the field the game was over…
and by the way, Saint Brett has walked off the field early on more than one occasion during blow outs and no one seemed to notice. One of those times was in a playoff game. He walked back to the locker room with over a minute left to play in a that home playoff loss to the Falcons a couple of years ago. He also did it during a regular season blow out loss to the Vikings at the Metrodome (I think it was the same season…might have been the year before).
When Brett does it, he’s just showing his manly emotions because he’s such a manly man who hates to lose. When Moss does it, he’s Satan.
WTF?
Are you shitting me? I seriously doubt that one fucking whit of Randy Moss’ actions have anything to do with him being a ‘proud black man’ being kept down by the man.
Randy Moss, along with many other lucky athletes, makes incredible amounts of money to play a game. They know what they’re getting into, and wouldn’t have it any other way. It sure beats a real job. Trust me, I have a real job. I know this.
The Man doesn’t enter it.
While I have no knowledge as to whether or not Moss does a lot of good in the community (and from Dio’s post it sounds like he does at least some), I do know that I have never heard one word about Moss’ actions on or off field motivated by racial issues, pride, inequity or what have you.
So please provide a cite if you care to bring race into this discussion. Otherwise,
And I’m a Pack fan, and I have no qualms with saying that a) the Vikes outplayed us on both sides of the ball and b) Favre sucked tonight. So did anybody who had to actually catch or hold onto a football, mind you, but Favre didn’t really do shit to help this team tonight.
Sorry, late posting…
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[li]The Man doesn’t enter into it.[/li][li]that would be racial issues, racial pride, racial inequity…(just to clarfiy)[/li][li]2nd to last para should read: Otherwise, start your own damn pit thread about racial inequities in football. A worthy topic, certainly, but no need to hijack this thread with an infalmmatory comment.[/li][/ul]
I was half-watching the game yesterday – I’ve got other things on my mind at the moment – and I heard the outrage, but I couldn’t figure out what it was about. Since I was in no mood to deal with jerkish behaviour anyway and the gentleman I was with and I had agreed we weren’t that interested in watching the game, I turned it off.
I can name a couple of proud, black men in my city, men who, among them, have run for, thrown, and caught touchdown passes this year: Jerome Bettis and Hines Ward. Bettis takes as much pride in his work as any running back in the league, but he took a pay cut and a role as a back up to have a chance at the Super Bowl. Both of them, I think, have their own radio shows here in Pittsburgh. For some reason, their pride doesn’t result in jerkish behaviour towards the fans who, in the end, pay their salaries.
By the way, Diogenes, while I may disagree with you about Randy Moss, I do sympathize with you about biased announcers. I swear there are some who think the Steelers can do no right and it’s been that way since the 70s.
CJ
I don’t think this is quite it. Sure, Fox likes Favre and probably wanted to see him advance, but all they really want is a story. Randy gave them that. This league has taken on a professional wrestling vibe. Notice how much time they spent in the pre-game show, the halftime show and the post-game show…and oh yes, contstantly during the game, talking about Randy’s controversy from last week.
*Randy’s a bad guy.
Randy’s not a team player.
Would you want Randy on your team?
Did the Moss conotrovery motivate the Vikings this week?
Can the Vikings over come adversity? *
Fox’s announcers may claim that Moss is disgusting. They may say that they’re sorry you had to see him wipe his ass on the goalpost. They don’t mean it though. This is all a big soap opera to Fox, and Moss is part of the story. Randy’s giving them just what they want. They’ll still be hyping the Randy Moss - Bad Seed story, into and throughout next week’s game.
Bet on it. Well, on second thought, gambling is too seedy for the NFL.
Expect it to happen.
I love creative touchdown celebrations. I loved the cellphone, I loved the sharpie, I loved the star celebration…this was just lame. That’s the only reason I’m annoyed. Show some creativity ferchristsakes.
Pantomining mooning and wiping your ass on the opposing team’s goalpost is a “funny little celebration”? Bullshit. It’s a self-promoting circus that, once again, shows that Randy Moss has a complete lack of respect for anybody not named Randy Moss. It was disrespectful to the Packers players who played the game, the fans at the stadium, and to the NFL. There are thousands of ways to celebrate a touchdown while still showing a modicum of respect for the other players. Moss, once again, proved that, while he is one of the most talented players to suit up, he’s still just a egomanical punk.
Surely no one’s suggesting this should remain an isolated incident. I think we’d all agree that everytime someone scores now they should symbolically moon the crowd and wipe their sweaty ass on the goalpost. I mean taunting and disrespect are where it’s at, yes? Don’t be stopping there either. Let’s get more disrespectful each week so that by the Superbowl it’s a legitimate cesspool of sophmoric, distasteful behaviour out there. I mean, it ain’t about the football. The reason we watch is for the dissin’ and the dance.
Twern’t just the live announcers that wern’t in awe of Randy’s stupid stunt. Howie and crew was equally unimpressed. James Brown came down harder on Moss than I’ve ever seen him come down on any player’s behaviour, saying something to the effect of how it was stupid, immature and embarassing.
I agree, not because I’m some kind of a prude (heh, fucking hardly) but instead because of my respect for the game.
Randy Moss just doesn’t get it and, quite apparently, he never will.
I’m not a hater of Randy Moss. I am a fan of class. This act had no class. Celebrating does not have to involve being crude.
“Classless, ignorant and embarrassing.” He even halted the condemning talk of Howie Long and Terry Bradshaw to look at the camera and express his disapproval calmly and sternly. It was embarrassing and it was degrading. In the taped interview with Jimmy Johnson, when Johnson told Randy Moss, paraphrased, “You know you were wrong to walk off the field. You know you were wrong,” Moss squirmed in his seat and hemmed and hawed, before finally saying that he was wrong but it was all in fun and he’d do it again anyway.
He just doesn’t get it, and I don’t think he ever will, and all of his talent doesn’t excuse that complete lack of class.
How’s that Division title working for ya?
You gonna watch that division title on the TV next week?
That’s a part of it. The networks market football as so much more than just a game. They spend an immense amount of time each week devoted to storyline, personalities, motivations, etc. Randy’s just playing their game. He may very well be an asshole, but Fox needs assholes. And it pays well.
Oh, lighten up, people. Don’t you know that nothing is supposed to offend you? You aren’t suppossed to have any standards or feelings…no dignity.
All I know is that when my kids grow up, I don’t want them to act like that.
I like the Marvin Harrison approach. Hand the ball to the ref and get to the sidelines. Dignity…class…respect - God forbid we should desire that.
(Plus it looked like sqauting/wiping more than mooning. )