To the woman who had her 9 year old son in the ladies' change room at the Y

So, are you saying that there shouldn’t be gender-separated locker rooms or bathrooms? There are a significant number of men and women who strongly prefer not to disrobe or be naked around people of the opposite sex with whom they have no prior relationship, and who would also prefer not to see naked members (no pun intended) of the opposite sex with whom they have no prior relationship. We have gender-separated locker rooms because this is a commonly-held sentiment. (Well, that and because naked women in an area with naked men is asking for trouble on a lot of levels).

His moustache.

I don’t really care one way or another.

Well, there are segregated changing rooms for those who are offended by penises or breasts, or viewing thereof, including viewing by nine year old boys. Maybe you can cover your breasts up with a towel, or go to another locker, if you are afraid of a nine year old boy seeing you naked.

I agree that kids mature at different rates and maybe this one wasn’t interested in seeing anything, but I think both kids, (a five or six year old and a nine year old), were too old to be in that changing room.

When I was nine, or even six for that matter, I didn’t want a bunch of strangers seeing me naked and my mother would have had a hell of a time dragging me in there. And when I was nine, me and my friends were always trying to get a peek at my older sister and her friends in their undies. Yes, I was interested in seeing boobies, and everything else as well.

If this woman wants to change with, or in front of her two sons, fine, but do it in the family changing room. That’s what it’s there for.

First off, I am a guy, so I don’t care if a nine year old boy sees me naked in a locker room. A nine year old girl in the men’s locker room, on the other hand, would bother me. The whole point is that a nine year old boy is too old to be in the women’s locker room. Your attitude is “get over it, just go somewhere else if you don’t want to be seen naked by a nine year old boy.” But she has. She should not have to be concerned about being seen naked by non-infant males when she is in the women’s locker room. Similarly, I expect, when I’m in the men’s locker room, that I will only be seen naked by other males. Somehow, this does not strike me as an unreasonable expectation. Sure, if a young girl-child happens to wander in the men’s locker room, I’ll cover up, but you can be sure as hell that I’ll complain to the management about it.

Maybe your locker room has segregated changing rooms, but most of the gyms and health clubs that I have been a member of don’t have those. The locker rooms are just what you’d expect: Lockers, benches, sinks, showers, maybe a sauna or steam room.

zuma, you’re a complete ass to even joke about monetary compensation.

What a righteous fuckstick.

I don’t recall being out of my mom’s sight at 5 or 6, excepting school. At 9? Hmmm… I’m gonna have to side with the OP until I am done constructing a society that has no shame of nudity, at which time we will all be happy again like when we lived in the trees.

fin

How about girls? Are nine year old girls too young to be in the female changing area?

I understand the worries about child molesters and all, but isn’t nine old enough to be somewhat independent in this regard?

I wouldn’t think my youngest, 5, would be interested in boobies, but here’s what happened recently:

5-yr old (in a whisper): “Mommy, I saw Daddy nekid in the bathroom, and I saw it!
Me: “Really? What did you see?”
5-yr old (still whispering): "His *peanut[/]. It was HUGE!

Can you imagine, to a five year old, just exactly what he saw? His Daddy is 6’4", 250, and while I won’t say huge, he’s slightly larger than average. And at eye level, no less.

So imagine his thoughts in the lady’s locker room. My boobies may not be the greatest (they are, btw), but the sheer numbers alone might actually give the kid a heart attack.

In a locker room setting, my kids don’t go into mine. A family one would be perfect, if daddy wasn’t there. OR, like someone else mentioned, turn your back to the wall, or stand in this stall until I’m done. And I’m guessing I won’t take long, either.

STG

I won’t swear up and down, but I think I was allowed to change alone in the locker room for swimming lessons at the Y when I was nine. (My memory is somewhat hazy, though.) My mom used to come in with my sister and me, but at some point she started to drop us off and run errands until it was time to pick us up after. Thing was, because she had been taking us there for lessons for so long, she knew what the environment was like–namely, full of mommies and other little girls, plus two teenage volunteers who were there specifically to squelch running, horseplay in the shower, and other shenanigans.

I took swimming lessons at the local university’s swimming pool from the ages of 7 to about 10. I changed in the locker room at the university with the college guys. Even used the sauna. So, I’d say yes.

Just a few thoughts; I was in the women’s change room, not the “Women and pre-teen boys” change room. Here in Calgary we segregate change rooms and washrooms by sex; I don’t know if that’s right or wrong, but that’s how it is here. If this lady is from a country that isn’t as hung up about nudity as us Canadians, fine for her, but she needs to live by the rules of the country she’s currently in. I was raised in this culture, and I’m damned well not making apologies or excuses for my “hang-ups”.

Also, this isn’t a big deal. I meant to mention in my OP that this wasn’t something that was making me lose my mind from rage or anything; it was just inappropriate and I wanted to blow off a little steam about it.

Sorry, MyFoots, I meant to answer you in my previous post (I’m too quick on the “submit” button today!). I didn’t know the kid was nine, but he looked around nine. He could have been a tall eight or a small 10 or 11; he was no little boy, though.

my 9yr old son, who until about a year or so ago had no problems with nudity, male or female, is suddenly very embarrassed at being confronted by adult naked bodies. However at 9 I think he is too young to be unattended in the male facilities.

I agree with gus28 that the family facilities are the place for a 9yr old, not adult ones. That way people like featherlou are not imposed upon and he is not embarrassed.

At around 9 I’d think a child would be old enough to go into the mens change room on his own. I would definately feel oogy about him being in there while I was changing but then I change in the stalls if they have them and one was open.

When I was around 5 my Dad took me camping (just him and I) and I remember showering in the guys room, then sitting on a bench while Dad had his shower. I often wonder how much I oogied out those guys, though it’s understandable I was in the guys room at that age and where we were.

I often went camping and swimming with my father (and brother once he was old enough) and recall at 9 that I was able to handle 5-10 minutes in a change room by myself. If I took too long Dad would ask a nice woman to check if I was there and okay, or would call in from the door for me to answer him.

Good god. The man is 6’4", 250, his dingdong is larger than average and you call it a peanut?

It’s a wonder the man doesn’t have a complex :smiley:

J

My 9 year old likes looking at boobs. He also goes into the men’s change room by himself, if his Dad isn’t with him. I think 5 minutes on his own, with me waiting outside at the door, is fine.

I am not the one who put a value on said boobies. Obviously the pair is valuable to view, and I’m just asking what they are worth.

The pair of boobs in question are obviously of value, or else there would not be an OP. Once the OP claimed her set was of value, I just asked how much.

I agree nine is too old. My club has a sign at the front desk where they will offer to have staff escort and watch over a child if necessary.

Of course, this is the same club that has a sign in the men’s locker room that says, (pun alert)

“Having young girls in the men’s locker room can be an embarrasing situation for male members. We can escort your daughter to the pool area at your request.”

I guess I was the only person who saw the thread title and thought “Jesus, she had a son in the lockerroom and it was nine years old? That musta hurt!”

When my son was 6, my husband’s Playboy disappeared. It was found 3 days later under my son’s bed. Being a concerned parent, I asked my pediatrician if I should be worried about that. The doctor looked at me very seriously and said, “Well, I guess we can conclude that he’s not gay.”

Nope, I wouldn’t have taken my nine year old son into a woman’s lockerroom. But, like others have mentioned, everybody’s different. And that includes 9 year old boys.