I’m sick and tired of hearing GOPers bitch and moan and spew lies about Obamacare and repeatedly calling for repeal. For fuck sake, they’re acting like Mitt Romney is their last hope against this savage “government takeover” of health care, even though, y’know, his actual RECORD makes it absolutely impossible to reconcile such a stupid idea with the reality of Mittens’s past.
All of this makes me wonder how much the ACA is going to influence voters in this election. I mean, I’ll give the GOP one thing: by having Ryan as the VP nominee, they’ve successfully managed to put the health law on top as a key issue in this campaign, which is something that they’ve probably been trying to do ever since it passed in 2010.
So far nada. Romney pandered to the right by claiming he would repeal it, but we’ve already seen serious hints that he doesn’t actually oppose what is essentially National Romneycare. Frankly, if he opposed it as strongly as he claimed during the primaries, it would already be a major campaign issue, and it is not.
Well, or at least from my position, I’ve seen jack, other than the AARP thing. I’m not in a swing state, so I can’t speak for the carpet bombing of issues in those states.
Well if the speech at the AARP is any inclination it’s going to depress Rodney’s old white conservative guy advantage with seniors. (when Paul Ryan talked about repealing it and how bad it was they boo’d him)
Lets see… all those seniors who no longer have a doughnut hole in their prescription coverage… and their children who no longer have to cover the cost of that hole in their insurance coverage…
All those kids in school who now have decent healthcare coverage on their parent’s plans…
All those people who no longer have pre-existing condition blocks to health care…
All those people who no longer have life-time limits hanging over their heads…
Many got their first rebate checks in August from being over charges and many plans either didn’t increase or decreased very slightly to meet the 20% profit requirements…
Many will find out that they won’t be ‘taxed’ for lack of coverage because it doesn’t really affect anyone under about $200k in earnings…
Hmmm… hard to tell, but I’m guessing that there are literally thousands (millions?) who’ve seen a positive effect from it.
Medicare taxes are also raised - another 0.9% for people earning over $200k ($250k joint) and a further 3.8% on investment income for these high earners. So, not exactly “obscure taxes”, but they do not affect most people.
This is the link to the paper about uninsured high earners (remember you only need insurance for one month in the year to be excluded from the mandate): content.healthaffairs.org/content/26/6/1745.full
So, they’re estimating that there will be 6 million people who earn enough to afford insurance but prefer a free ride. I have no problem with them having to pay the penalty. If they wrap their car around a tree, they’d expect to get treatment in an ER wouldn’t they? What if they needed extensive surgery and long term rehabilitation?
I guess the free ride ends in the year 2016 and all I can say is … About F’n Time!
Are those 6 million people actually wealthy enough to afford health insurance? If Congress really thought that, the penalty would have teeth. No one actually has to pay the penalty, there’s no enforcement mechanism other than to dock refunds, a rather easy problem to get around.
Add into that the fact that SCOTUS ruled that the government cannot actually compel people to buy health insurance and the moral underpinning of the concept has been invalidated. It exists only as a technicality.
Not to mention pregnancies are not covered by COBRA and home pregnancies have double the rate of infant mortality (10 in 1000 compared to 5 in 1000 births).
The ACA is the major reason I’m supporting Obama in 2012. Not that it matters since I don’t live in a swing state.
I don’t expect Obama to pass any meaningful legislation from 2013-2016. If he wouldn’t/couldn’t pass something in 2009-2010, then there is no way he will do it in 2013-2016.
But if the ACA stays the law of the land it moves the overton window to the left. By the end of this decade the debate won’t be ‘repeal or keep’ it’ll be how to update the ACA. Hopefully that’ll open the window for a medicare buy in, Rx negotiations, comparative effectiveness, stronger regulation of private insurance, assistance for overseas medical visits, etc.
So which one is it - will 6 million pay the “mandate/tax” or not? You can’t claim that it’s a tax hike on one hand and then say that it exists only as a technicality that no one actually has to pay.
Just like we, taxpayers, pay for the pensions that Romney raided and foisted on the the government… we, taxpayers, pay for uninsured ER visits… so to him it IS free because we, the people who actually pay taxes at higher rates, are paying for it while he’s paying a fleet of attorneys and accountants to stash his money off shore and out of reach. So, yup… those ER visits are practically ‘free’ for a tax dodger like Romney… no so much the rest of us who live in and are invested in the US.
I think this election is doing more to change people’s attitudes about ACA than three years of political ads from both sides. People don’t necessarily see it as a bad thing.
You do realize that anything that is not necessary to the conclusion that the ACA is constitutional is called dicta, right? In other words its not an interpretation of the law and has no precedential value. A different supreme court with different justices can simply ignore that part of the opinion without comment.