Okay, so you look like a grown-up Stewie.
IVN: “I’m sorry about your illness, but your behaviors are not good and you are annoying”
This thread will not be turned around to be about me. So ya’ll have fun.
Yeah, I thought so.
Oh, whining on an internet board does a lot. It lets you wallow, and makes things worse. And especially when people say “oh poor you,” and you feel justified in feeling bad.
Giving pity to some wallowing in depression is giving fudge to a diabetic. Yes, in both cases they are ill - but in both cases they need to do something productive over their own illness - not have people enable them.
I was going to make a joke about tacoloco not going after the low-hanging fruit, but I can’t he is going after the low-hanging fruit. 
Uh huh. I bet you realized that the question has an answer that you may not like, but don’t want to admit it. I understand.
Dunno about yours, but mine has a rather unmistakable “final stage.”
Why do we have to go all detective to find out if the OP is sincere. Who cares? He is offering us fodder for our message boarding. Let’s take his word for it as a part of the message boarding experience, as opposed to only offering our huggles if he is indeed depressed. (if one is the type to offer huggles, that is.)
And again, if someone thinks his depression is pathetic, he should be able to take that to the pit without anyone indicating that it might ‘push someone over the edge’. Well it might, but then we all can’t be expected to post on message boards with the power to push folks over the edge weighing down our fingertips.
If lying on a message board for attention really makes one a troll, I mean if that really is the definition (I’ve never been certain of the definition) then I strongly suspect at least 50% of all message boarders to be trolls. And I’m grateful for them! They get me through my work day, they do.
Nzinga Won’t somebody think of the douchebags?
Easy to say.
Not so easy when something you do or dont do on the internet ACTUALLY “causes” the death of another real person in real life.
I’ve been there (sorta). It certainly aint nice. Thank the gods in my case there aint a damn thing I woulda or coulda done different. And even then it aint a nice feeling.
All those “internet assholes in any and all circumstances” would be wise to consider this…
I’m always happy to admit when I’m wrong or not thinking the right way.
My issue here is that I don’t think it’s right for people to attack someone who may have mental health issues, especially when it appears that in some cases, it’s simply for sport. What I find especially stupid is the idea that simply because one person has had some experience that someone else can simply do what they did and magically fix things.
If Chessic, for example, was able to dig himself out of a hole, that’s great. But just because Chessic did it by hardening the fuck up, doesn’t mean
Mooky can. I get a clear vibe from some folks in the thread that this is just a case of some lazy kid who just needs a kick in the ass. Well in my experience, not everyone has the capability to do that.
If that makes me one of the self righteous fucktards, I’m cool with that.
Nobody is suggesting there should be rules against it and nobody is being prevented from posting something like that. But they have to be prepared to eat the shit sandwich they’re gonna get served when people read it.
Nzinga, Seated officially wins the award for most ridiculous dumbass in the thread. Even though others have said precisely what s/he said, I’m awarding it to Nzinga. Basically, the gist of it is if someone is depressed and a lonely loser it’s ok to berate them in the pit. What it’s NOT ok to do is berate those that are berating that person. Basically, it’s a fucking moral requirement to pile onto the poor hapless soul, or STFU!
Or, what Tacoloco said.
I feel you on this, and I actually agree with you. But it makes me uncomfortable when we start getting into territory where we as posters have to feel responsible for another posters well being, based on what we post. This thread isn’t the first time I have heard things like, 'I hope this thread hasn’t pushed so and so over the edge"
Aye. A fair point.
Usually they aren’t attacking someone for being depressed and feeling worthless.
Basically, what this thread does is say, “You feel worthless? Well guess what! You ARE worthless!” It’s hardly the same as taking a narcissist like ivn1188 to task.
Why would that make you uncomfortable? We, as people, let alone posters, are responsible for the effect that both our words and actions have on other people. Yes yes, only you are in charge of your own emotions and blah blah blah, but if you go up to a five year old whose parent just died and tell her that there is no heaven and her mommy is wormchow, she’ll probably cry. And you’ll probably merit a kick to your squishier region(s).
So if we see someone on the Dope, and it’s perfectly reasonable to assume that they’re clinically, perhaps even dangerously depressed, then the responsible action might just not be to see how unhappy you can make them and how bad you can make them feel for not being able to be happy.
And, when you (plural) choose to inflict emotional distress upon someone, you might not be totally blameless for the consequences. It’s not like our community is animated by the same spirit as some other on the net where causing depressed people to off themselves has been cause for lulz.
Many people here seem to be confusing the difference between ‘‘acting like an ass’’ and ‘‘taking the tough love approach.’’
To reiterate: There is a HUGE difference between encouraging someone to go out and do something about their depression and actively reinforcing the irrational cognitions that cause depression. The action taken by bucketybuck in starting this thread directly contradicts the therapeutic goal of refuting negative beliefs.
mooky’s resistance in this moment to changing his worldview is a common symptom of depression, and implies nothing whatsoever about his prognosis:
The idea that this thread or this judgmental attitude could ‘‘help’’ a depressed person is patent bullshit. It is akin to forcefeeding cake to a diabetic. If you don’t care, fine, you don’t care, but don’t run around pretending like your unwarranted meanness is anything other than unwarranted meanness. Don’t be fucking ingenuous about it, just admit you’re willingly engaging in behaviors known to perpetuate depression in a depressed person.
There’s at least one intelligent, humourous as hell board that also has a forum for folks like the possible-troller; it’s over at the Stephen Fry site. In an age where you have a billion boards to whinge on, it’s a good idea to pick a board that can at least HELP a little while you’re there. Conversely, if a kick in the arse is all that’s needed, seeing how bad things can really be for some people, even WITH help, might be a wake-up call.
There are surely a million pages and people out there with similar issues; I just find this board to be entertaining in general; it just happens to have a ‘The Secret Life of the Manic-Depressive’ forum on it. =P
Who are the ones who aren’t boring and wankey, just out of curiosity?