Was that what she said to the kids when they were upset about the loss?
Brady is a professional athlete. He wins for money. So-called “good sportsmanship” is not in his job description.
In baseball, I can only recall one occasion when an opposition player congratulated another on the field.
Sammy Sosa came in and hugged Mark McGwire when McGwire became the first to his his 61 home run. But that was not about game winner and loser, but a personal milestone. Ralph Branca was not standing at home plate to congratulate Bobby Thomson. As far as I know, it has never happened in baseball. But then, baseball transcends mere sport, it is the essence of the universe.
Do you want to know how I know that you didn’t actually read the article about their diet?
Yes I saw that tom replaced table salt with pink himalayan sea salt, so in essence was not removing much sodium from his diet. Two things i have to say to that:
a) who cares what kind of fad diet some celebrity espouses?
- I was responding to your hyperbole.
and thirdly, sea salt is lower in sodium than table and also contains other important minerals such as potassium. magnesium, and phosphorus.
mc
Nobody mentioned those other things.
The things I quoted were from legitimate sites, so yes, average IQs in some areas of the USA where iodine deficiencies were common went up by 15 points once it was added to salt in the 1920’s.
So my point stands and is not hyperbole. It was also said in reference to the diet, which you seem to be dismissing. Thanks for playing a completely different game.
It’s pretty common in baseball for the other team to recognize individual achievements like hit #3000. Of course in baseball you can pause and have a ceremony in the middle of a game.
It wasn’t always that way. It changed with free agency. I remember Ralph Kiner saying that if you said hi to the 1st baseman when you got a walk you would catch hell.
not hyperbolic at all :rolleyes:
mc
Any diet that eliminates tomatos or mushrooms (two of my favorite foods) isn’t worth shit.
Granted many people could do with cutting back on all the sugary and salty foods they eat. But I’m talking like junk food, like candy, or potato chips. Not a wee bit of salt and pepper on your scrambled eggs, or yogurt and a banana.
You tend to get dismissed as a quack after misrepresenting yourself as a doctor and claiming your supplement cured 192 people of cancer and could prevent arthritis, MS, Parkinson’s disease and AIDS.
Tom Brady does not enhance his reputation by being involved in running TB12 Enterprises with this guy, and selling electrolyte drinks at $15 a bottle and other pricey “health” food.
Impressive as Starving Artist’s testimonial is, he left out claims that his hair turned from gray to black, he ran a marathon in 1:25 and that he suddenly become so virile on a Brady-oid diet that he was banned in all 50 states, so skepticism is warranted.
As for the argument that sea salt (or any salt) is an important source of minerals, the previously linked article on the Brady diet contains this comment from Harriet Hall M.D. (who has written extensively on alt med):
*"I found a website that reports the results of a spectral analysis of Himalayan salt. I think this is where the claim comes from. Even if this analysis is accurate, it is meaningless for health and if anything is worrisome. The amount of minerals in it is too minuscule to make any difference, and we already get plenty of the same trace minerals from other foods. They claim that two double-blind studies were done, but no such studies are listed in PubMed. There is no evidence published in peer-reviewed journals that replacing white salt with pink salt makes a shred of difference or leads to any improvement in health.
If you read down the list of minerals, you will notice that it includes a number of radioactive substances like radium, uranium, and polonium. It also includes substances that act as poisons, like thallium. I wouldn’t be worried, since the amounts are so small; but if anyone believes the trace amounts of “good” minerals in Himalayan sea salt are good for you, why not believe the trace amounts of poisons and radioactive elements are bad for you?"*
“Does that sound like something you’d want to eat? It sounds like a chemistry experiment to me.” - Tom Brady, blasting GMO foods in his recently published book.
So Coca-Cola is “poison” and GMOs a “chemistry experiment” according to Brady, but radium, uranium, polonium and thallium are good stuff? 
:smack:
Brady is a great quarterback and for all I know, a decent person apart from his hucksterism, pseudoscientific leanings and association with Guerrero, but he should stick to football.
It certainly is, and it’s good to see. Generally after the last game of any playoff series, and most emphatically after the Stanley Cup Final, the losing coaches and their staff congratulate the winners, and the players file past and shake hands and congratulate each other. And those who think it’s just a league-enforced formality should watch carefully. The players really do talk to their winning competitors, and you can often see this especially between the winning and losing goalies, where the netminders, rightly or wrongly, but often unfairly, are credited with a win or blamed for a loss. This camaraderie is called sportsmanship; it costs nothing, but it provides valuable life lessons for the kids who are watching. You’d think that a display of sportsmanship and basic decency would be the least that privileged athletes making astronomical salaries could do.
I don’t always agree with you, but kudos for that. Well said. 
Great QB, but a dweeb. He seems a little short in the man department. If a radio host pisses on my young daughter on the air, I’m messing with his face- period. But all he said was “disappointed”??? Geeze, grow a pair.
My favorite anecdote about that comes from when Darrell Evans and Dwight Evans were both American League first basemen. Chatty base runners would get on first, and get the two of them mixed up, and call them the wrong name. So when either of them got on first while playing against each other, they would have an entire conversation in which each of them would call each other by his own name, even asking each other about their own wife and kids…
If you’re rich and famous, you don’t start throwing hands over every little thing. Because you’re a target for every asshole who wants some of your money. Do it once and every dickhead and troll will be begging you to hit them.
Hell, if you’re an adult, you don’t do that.
Yes, I was aware before I began the diet that 15 or so years ago Guerrero was fined by the government for making demonstrably false claims that were most likely motivated by money. He got caught out and fined and has had to live with the results ever since. But nothing about that means that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, and by multiple accounts, including those by Brady himself, he has been exceedingly successful in developing effective method of treating and preventing injuries, and has developed a wide following amongst athletes whose traditional trainers’ and doctors’ methods have proven far less effective. Brady was in fact led to Guerrero by Willie McGinest when Brady was suffering elbow problems that were inhibiting his ability to throw the ball ten years ago. Conventional methods had done nothing while Guerrero’s methods not only improved Brady’s condition in short order but completely eliminated it. Since then Guerrero’s methods have been so successful that many other Patriots players have begun seeking him out both to keep them healthy or to minimize the damage and get the back to playing when they get hurt. So many Patriots players, in fact, have turned to Guerrero that it’s caused the well-known conflict with the Patriots’ traditional trainers and doctors that resulted in Guerrero being banned by Bill Belichick from treating anyone but Brady inside the Patriots’ facility (he can still treat them at the TB12 center. So, figuring these guys know more than the inevitable naysayers like yourself, I accepted his diet advice and subsequently have enjoyed the benefits I described upthread. I can’t imagine what motive you’d think would compel me to lie about it.
I doubt that Brady is concerned in the slightest with whatever reputation he earns as a result of the thriving business he and Guerrero have developed to help athletes and anyone else live happier, healthier and more pain-free lives by adopting their methods. If what other people think bothered Brady he’d have shot himself years ago.
Wrong again. The electrolytes Brady sells are not drinks, they come in little squeeze bottles like flavor enhancers used for bottled water, and are intended to be squirted into bottles of water just like the flavor enhancers are. One bottle electrolysizes (:p) multiple bottles of water.
So let me get this straight. You think skepticism is called for because I didn’t add ridiculous claims to the list of benefits I’ve gotten out of Brady’s diet? Sorry, but that doesn’t seem…feasible.
Brady does eat very much salt at all, not even the Himalayan stuff. But be that as it may, I don’t really care one way or the other about which salt a person uses. My view has been to take seriously the things that there seems to be little reason to doubt (i.e., the benefits of a plant-based diet and avoidance of dairy, starchy and/or sugar-laden foods) and leave the salt and the infrared emitting pajamas aside pending more evidence.
I think that we can all agree that medical evidence shows that sugar and chemical-laden soft drinks are indisputably unhealthy over the long run, especially in large quantities. Yet I’ve never heard any concern from the medical community that the uranium, polonium, etc. in electrolyte drinks are harmful in the slightest. Further, bottled electrolytes have been around quite a while are easy to find. Whole Foods, for example, sells many different brands. They’ve been out for quite a while with no outcry from the medical community. But for the record, I feel I get enough electrolytes from my diet and don’t use any brand for myself. As I said, I use a certain amount of judgement in deciding which of the elements of Brady’s diet I adopt, but I don’t feel any aspect of it is harmful should someone else decide it’s right for them.
Well, one man’s hucksterism is another man’s effort to promote by example a healthier lifestyle. I view Brady’s book and his TB12 products as the beginnings of a healthy lifestyle business that he will eventually transition to once his playing days are over. IMO, Swarzenegger was great in promoting exercise and triggering an interest in fitness that has only grown in the decades since Pumping Iron, and I view Brady as wanting to take it a step further now through the promotion of healthy eating, hydration and a more sophisticated form of exercise.
I don’t know why some people are so quick to focus in on one little chink in what they see in the things someone is promoting and then attempt to use that to discredit the whole thing. Brady’s book is chock-full of good, undeniable exercise, nutrition and hydration information, but about all one heard after its publication is that Brady believe his (excessive for the non-athlete) hydration has kept him from getting sunburns. Yeah, he might be full of it or just mistaken about the amount of sun he’s getting these days, but that doesn’t mean the other 99.999% of the book is worthless. Same with your critiques of Guerrero and Brady. There’s tons of good stuff there that is undeniably good, so what is there to gain by encouraging people to disregard it because you’re suspicious or doubtful about a tiny percentage of it?
Hell, even Nikki Sixx doesn’t do that, for the same reason, and has said so on his radio show numerous times.
Actually, that should be cretins, not morons, right?
Athletes are notoriously gullible when it comes to their health, gulping down supplements by the handful and going to quacks in an effort to gain an edge. Take the case of another (former) quarterback, Bernie Kosar, who claimed to have reversed neurologic symptoms from brain injury through the efforts of a certain Dr. Rick Sponaugle, who touted a “rapid detox” protocol. It makes fascinating reading (my favorite quote from Sponaugle was in answer to a question by a Cleveland Plain Dealer reporter. Sponaugle told her he had conducted many studies in support of his work, but that they had not been published because “I do not give all my data away”).
So I am not highly impressed with alleged testimonials from Patriots players, and I can understand why Patriots staff might resent them being influenced by a guy like Guerrero with such a checkered history.
*"Head (Patriots) trainer Jim Whalen owns a master’s in sports medicine from Miami and has played a part in four Super Bowl titles since 2002. His assistant, Joe Van Allen, also earned a master’s at Miami and has been overseeing rehabs – including Brady’s from knee surgery – since 2001. Assistant trainer Daryl Nelson received a master’s from Ohio State. Physical therapist Michael Akinbola holds three degrees, including a doctor of physical therapy from the University of Delaware. Dietician Ted Harper has trained special operations soldiers and U.S. Olympic speed skaters, with degrees from Utah and Purdue.
Those are some seriously accomplished trainers with more than 40 years and 13 Super Bowls here between them. Who is Belichick supposed to trust? These five men, with their track record of success under his watch, or Guerrero, who has been sued twice for fraud after claiming to be a doctor?"*
One can always assume that the Patriots’ medical staff dislikes Guerrero only because he’s competition, not because they care about the players’ welfare and Guerrero is keeping them from doing their jobs properly. But one would be wrong.
As to the other stuff - well, I’ve seen lots of claims made for fad diets and supplements, and usually any benefits that are real come from simply losing weight, not the bizarre aspects of whatever protocol someone is enthusiastically promoting.
The danger with what Brady’s touting is that people will look at him and think, wow, this guy is pretty old and still performing at a high level - his woo must be right! So if I hydrate with his electrolyte elixir, I can go out in the sun without sunscreen!! I can eat what I want as long as it’s not “chemical” foods!!!
Not good.
Back to Brady and away from the salt:
CBS sports has an article saying that Brady probably couldn’t find Foles on the field after the game. It seems reasonable, especially since it includes a picture of him shaking hands with another Eagles player. The field is crazy after a Super Bowl, especially one that came down to a final Hail Mary play.
On the other hand, back in 2006 Brady did knock up his actress girlfriend then dump her for a supermodel.
It makes perfect sense that Starving Artist is a disciple of Brady and his quack’s bullshit.