Tom Brady takes a break finally

Yeeesh!

Here’s an interesting/amusing take:

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/patriots-fans-shouldnt-get-worked-over-tom-brady-retirement-snub-yet

The Jets had a great response as well:

Yeah, that’s us on the day the big guy retires. :grin::rofl::joy:

How many times have I screamed in bars, houses, parties, “DON’T GIVE BRADY THE GODDAMN FOOTBALL!!!”? About 200. And whatever team gives him the ball and guess who wins.

I am really going to miss his presence in the game. All respect. Thanks, Tom. Best to the family.

The Philly Fox affiliate tweeted “Tom Brady, known for dropping a pass in Super Bowl LII and failing to shake Nick Foles’ hand, has announced his retirement from the NFL.”

Barry Bonds was the GOAT; oh wait, he cheated, no HoF for him.
Lance Armstrong the GOAT; oh wait, he cheated, now a pariah in the sport
Tom Brady is the GOAT; oh wait, he cheated, but yet he’s still the GOAT???

Should there be a separate category for PED cheaters vs. other forms of cheating?

No doubt he would have been up there if he played clean but I can’t help but wonder how many times did they not get caught & would he have all of those Superb Owls if he played clean the whole time.

a quick googling - he’s worth $400 mil & she’s worth $250 mil. Seriously, what does another $15 mil get them that they can’t afford today vs. how hard it is to get out of bed on Mon mornings?

I thought Brady should have retired after his last Super Bowl win with the Patriots.

I think many fans are concerned about Tom’s future health and ability to enjoy retirement.

Joe Montana still looks good and gets around. But he’s admitted there are times he can’t participate in family activities like hiking & skiing.

Deflategate was a joke. Is there any actual cheating I am unaware of?

There was Spygate, but Brady wasn’t involved with that.

And they ended up losing to Eli Manning that season anyway. Isn’t that ignominy enough?

None of us are former NFL players bit I still remember Super Bowl LI. Brady was damned intimidating.

John Elway, though? Sure, there was The Drive, but he wasn’t as intimidating as, say, Montana, Steve Young, or Dan Marino, to pick guys from that era. He was not that a dominating QB - rarely led in any statistical category.

I’m not sure it was a joke. I doubt in impacted the outcome of any games, but if intentional it was inexcusable. Rules (even stupid rules) are rules. If you intentionally violate a clear rule, you should be banned for life. Period. Corked bats are even a better example. No way that happens by accident.

There is no real evidence that it even happened though, if you read the article I linked.

The Wells Report was based largely on a series of text messages from an equipment assistant who referred to himself as “The Deflator,” and the unexplained pregame detour of a locker room attendant who brought the game balls into a bathroom with him before the game. There was no direct evidence that the equipment assistant removed air from the footballs, or that Brady asked him to do it. And the halftime inflation measurement was a rushed and haphazard effort, one that would never pass scientific scrutiny to confirm accuracy.

In the end, it is nothing more than an opinion to suggest that it was “more probable than not” that Deflategate happened. In the terms of advanced statistics, the NFL was saying there was a 51% probability that Deflategate occurred but a 100% necessity to issue discipline. It’s not outlandish to think that someone connected with the Patriots might have tried to help Brady, or that Brady had tacitly accepted that help, but there’s no direct evidence of it.

And when an MIT professor explained that weather conditions could do the same thing, based on the ideal gas law, who could argue? The NFL wouldn’t have known either way, because it did not regularly record pounds-per-square-inch readings to that point. For all we know, football deflation occurred naturally every week.

Seriously, that is a reason to call Brady a cheater? :rofl:

Here is another article on it:

Real doubt exists at the most basic and existential level imaginable. Did anything unnatural happen to footballs used in the 2014 AFC Championship Game? The NFL, backed by a multimillion dollar third-party report, believes it did. Science, reason and innate skepticism diminish the certainty of its answer.

I will repeat, yes, it is a joke. The NFL made fools of themselves over the entire incident. The clown noses people wore to mock Goodell were entirely justified.

Statistically sure, but I’m talking about feel. Maybe it’s subjective and maybe it’s arbitrary, but I know I’m not unique in the feeling.

Brady would beat you 27-10. Elway would beat you 34-31 with a 10 point comeback in the 4th. Hell, it’s probably because Montana and Brady were more consistent and efficient passers that they rarely put themselves in the position of needing to come back like that. Obviously both guys have won plenty of games that way, both on the biggest stage to boot, but I’m not alone in in answering the question “which QB would you want if you’re down 5 with 40 seconds to go in the Super Bowl” with someone other than Brady and Montana.

Honestly, that’s a problem for any retired football player (even one who didn’t play in the NFL); football takes an enormous toll on a body.

Brady has really devoted himself to keeping his body in good shape, but the fact is that he played a high-contact sport for over 20 years, and did suffer at least one major injury (an ACL/MCL tear in 2008).

Interestingly, Peyton Manning appears to hold the record for most regular season game-winning drives with 54. Brady is tied for second with 53. However, when you get into the post-season, Brady runs away with the record with 14, compared to the next highest - Elway with 6. Manning only has 2. Obviously part of that is longevity, but part of it is Brady being absolutely clutch in the biggest moments.

Do we have a list that shows the regular season numbers for guys like Elway, Montana and Rodgers?

Indeed we do.

You’ll see that Brady is tied with Brees and Roethlisberger at 53, then there is a drop down to the next tier:
Marino at 47, Favre at 43, Matts Ryan and Stafford at 42, Elway at 40, etc. Montana and Aaron Rodgers are way down at 28 and 27, respectively.

Look at Cutler tied with Montana.

He’s back.

Unlike Tom, my thread didn’t age well. :confounded: