Tonight, on Survivor (3/20)

Did not see a thread for tonight’s fun, so here goes:

Questions:

  1. Will team turmoil continue their losing ways and vote out Gina.

  2. How overt will Burnett’s efforts to even out the game be?

  3. What is this crazy “mystery” offer- and how related to #2 is it (remember the old team switcheroo last year to “even out
    the teams.

  4. How many more injuries will the dangerous duo inflict upon themselves?

  5. What is the over/under on close-ups on Sarah’s ummm assets ? I say 8. I may be low. :smiley:

Predictions: Burnett will swap things around enough so that team turmoil is spared yet another trip to tribal counsel. With all of the brains and workers gone (other then Gina, who probably will not see a reason to knock herself out) Hunter’s predictions will slowly be borne out, as the idiot brigade slow desends into a Lord of the Flies type of anarchy.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the world’s most annoying real estate agent will say at least two idiotic things causing much eyerolling.

Prediction: accident-prone Fat Boy gets to go home.

-me

Based on the previews claiming that the castaways take their fates “into their own hands” and the fact that they knew about last season’s switch, I’d say it’ll be a lottery.

Something like all the names of each tribe go into a hat, two are picked out, those two join the other tribe.

Then of course they may just come out and say “Pick two to swap”. That could be really interesting. Those in strong alliances are going to cover their butts and try to stay together, while those on the chopping block (Gina) are going to do their damnedest to get swapped.

WAD, I think that’d be awesome if they did a “pick two to swap.” I’d love to see where alliances are currently in the functioning tribe.

What about creation of a three or four person third tribe, with some sort of incentive to join (pre-made shelter, a can of rice, a fairly well-stocked fishing bay, etc.)? Maybe even without the incentive.

I just don’t think they’ll do it like last season. One, these contestants saw it happen. Two, it didn’t work last time - people still voted along the old tribal lines. I really liked the idea of it, but it just wasn’t very effective.

We’re down to 13 people at the moment, which doesn’t make for any combination of evenly divided teams. Last time around it happened when both teams were at 6 members, which makes for a much cleaner break. I don’t think a simple switcheroo will happen tonight, even as a lottery. My best guess is that whatever the shakeup is will be part of a challenge. Whatever happens, though, this should be interesting. Unless Sean, Vecepia, Rob, and Sarah go into a reconstituted tribe together, they’re going to be easy targets for the new majority (though 3 of those 4 could still hang on in a tribe of six).

Also, even though the switch didn’t result in any new strategies last time around, it certainly increases the chances of that happening. Add a marginalized person like Kathy to S-V-R-S, and suddenly you’ve got a viable alliance. (Not that it’ll happen that way–just an example of how things could change.)

I really, really, really, really want to watch those idiots stew in their own juices, sleep in their own ill made bed, get what they deserve, reap what they’ve sown, etc., etc., so I’ve been dreading the inevitable “swap”. But a “pick two to trade” order might be fun to watch also.

Someday, after the Survivor franchise has lost it’s magic (say after Survivor XX - Hoboken), I hope Mark Burnett and/or Jeff Probst write a tell-all book with the real dirt about what went on behind the scenes.

I’m dying to hear the scoop on how they really picked contestants and divided them into teams.

“Let’s see, we’ve got a raging homophobic ex-navy guy and an occasionally naked fat gay guy, let’s put them on the same tribe.”

“Hmmm, laziest people on earth and a real go-getter, a match made in heaven.”

My dislike of Sean has graduated to full-on loathing. I am now disgusted that he will reap so much as a penny from this show. Rob is just a moron. Sean is worthy of a Pit thread. His tribal council mercy-killing will be, for me, the happiest moment of any vote in any of the four series. Better than Jeri, better than Silas, better than Rich winning in #1. Take your I’m-so-lazy-I-must-be-a-slave nonsense back to Harlem, jerk.

But on the other hand, it can’t be a bad show when Silicone Sarah gets kicked at the end. The only interesting part of next week is whether new-Rotu throws the immunity challenge just to get rid of Sean. If new-Maraamu loses immunity, Kathy gets kicked.

And I’m finally ready to start making some final four predictions. John is a shoe-in. I really like his game. Gabriel looks good on brains and strength, although I still have reservations that he doesn’t have any obvious allies. Zoe is solid. As for the fourth finalist, it’s a toss-up between Neleh and Robert.

Robert has two strikes against him because he’s simultaneously strong and sick, but the sick part could work in his favor in the first votes after the merge and the strong part (assuming he recovers) could serve him well towards the end. Regardless, I don’t see him winning.

The Neleh and Paschal alliance is obvious, but I don’t expect it to take either of them much further than it did for Rodger and Elisabeth. But the two solid votes gives them clout whenever the tribe is divided on who to vote out. Neither of them is strong enough to win the immunities that’ll take them to the final vote, but a two-vote alliance between under-the-radar players will take you far after the merge. Give the nod to Neleh for the eventual Neleh-Paschal decision.

So that’s my minty-fresh prediction: John, Gabriel, Zoe, and Neleh. John wins it all.

**Ugh. Full-on loathing indeed. You sully the good name of “Moron” by applying it to Rob. He’s an ass. :rolleyes:

**I’m just speechless. His actions tonight were amazing. I would have loved to have known what Gabriel was thinking when Sean was ginving his little “I’m not working hard, so kick me out” speech. What a jerk.

I can see Zoe or John winning. Just my guess. :slight_smile:

SPOILERS OF COURSE

I admit, I watched the first incarnation of Survivor, and pretty much ignored the rest. But last week, I watched about the last half hour, and was absolutely captivated by the sheer laziness and idiocy of the Maruboywerereallysadpatheticanddumb Tribe. Nothing like stupid people on TV to bring back a viewer like me.

Tonight’s episode was the first I’ve seen in a while, and I loved Gina’s comment about it being pretty clear Sarah was going to go, but that Sarah might be just too dumb to figure it out. And she was. Priceless.

I’ve scraped crap off my shoe that was more appealling than Rob and Sean. My hatred grows with every second I think about them. Getting kicked off is too good for them. Actual physical injury would be nice.

No predictions 'cause I just don’t know enough. I like the blond curly haired smart dude. And I’m madly in love with Gina. GO GINA!!!

While I agree with you about Sean, I think that Rob goes beyond moronic to downright vile. Did you miss the part where Rob was critiquing his new tribe members? Let me see…John was probably queer because he did all the cooking, so he’d better not sleep next to him that night. Robert was big and tough, but he was probably compensating for having a small weenie. None of the Rotu women were as good looking as Silicone Sarah…and I believe that he referred to Zoe as a man? And when Tammy tried to be nice to the lazy asses lounging on the beach by bringing them some toasted coconut, after she walked away, Rob commented to Sean that as long as she kept serving him, he’d allow her to stick around.

So, is Mr. Constantly on the Cross, Race Baiting Sean better than Rob the misogynistic homophobe? Good question.

I’m so totally hoping that Rotu tanks the next IC in order to get rid of one of these losers.

Okay, perhaps I was hasty in describing Rob as just a moron. He’s clearly an asshole in addition to being a moron. It’s just that I tend to think of mental retardation as a mitigating circumstance, which Rob has in spades. Sean, on the other hand, seems to have an IQ that exceeds room temperature, and possibly even approaches body temp. Yet even with the gift of not being a total dumbf**k, he has apparently chosen to be the biggest asshole ever to appear on a program that clearly ascribes extra special bonus points to people with asscheeks instead of regular faces.

Don’t get me wrong, I will cheer when Rob takes the walk of shame in a few weeks. I will even utter a well-satisfied “Dumbass!” when Vecepia goes the way of the passenger pigeon the week after that. But when Sean is thinking of new and clever ways to use both uppity and Jesus in the same sentence of his farewell speech–god, I pray it will be next week–I will take to my feet and applaud. That, and hope that Hunter kicks his whiny little ass when they meet up at whatever Marquesas resort where they’re staying.

Rob is incredible! I couldn’t believe it when he was describing one of his new tribesmate (can’t remember which, but it was a guy) and he said something along the lines of ‘He thinks he’s a wiseguy, but he’s probably not that smart…’ I litterally laughed out loud.

The guy is just undescribably dumb. He takes himself way too seriously, and is dumber than a bag of rocks buried under miles of chick.com tracts.

I get laughs out of him, but don’t expect him to last long. Talk about an *ss!! Sean will get kicked first unless Rob pulls something dramatic, but Sean seems to be even dumber than Rob, and seems to do Rob’s bidding. Rob thinks he’s a wiseguy and seems to be playing Sean who’s to busy being a racist *sshole to notice it. Pretty hilarious pair, if your sense of humor is like mine! :slight_smile:

Absolutely, utterly, stunningly amazing. Could there be two bigger jackasses than Sean and Rob anywhere in the universe?

Since they’re all home now and their (hopefully former) friends can see them for the complete schmucks that they are, I can only hope that they’re being shunned by everyone they know and will have to live out the rest of their lives in total isolation, slowly going mad.

I am completely disgusted by these pigs and their incredible, pompous arrogance. What vile creatures.

I was so hoping the Rotus would throw that challenge so they could vote off those wastes of skin, but apparently they’re too competitive to purposefully lose. That’s a shame, because it would certainly be in their best interest not to have to live with those creeps.

It was hilarious watching the looks on the faces of the former Moronmu slugs, as they had to actually contribute to their tribe’s survival. And the stunned look on Gabe’s face as Sean spewed his diatribe was priceless. None of the original Rotu now have any doubt why Moronmu kept losing all the challenges, that’s for sure.

Hunter must be doing the happy dance until his feet bleed, watching them finally get what’s coming to them!

Unfortunately, because they didn’t make the tribes more even, numbers-wise, everyone in the new Maraamu tribe are toast, no matter what. I can’t see those particular 4 going up against any 4 from Rotu and winning anything. I know it was purely random, but it would’ve been more interesting to see a new Maraamu consisting of John, Gabe, Gina, Zoe & Sarah, for instance (keeping Sarah just so that each team gets at least 1 lazy-assed slob to contend with). At least that combination would’ve maybe stood a chance. Or how interesting would it have been if all 5 new Maraamu had been former Rotu? Ah well, at least the new Maraamu were smart enough to vote off Miss Tits. I was very thankful to see that happen.

Please bear with me, I do get to the point eventually. I had to work tonight. I produce two small local papers and Wednesday is deadline night for both. It is the only night of the week that I absolutely have no flexibility in my schedule. I’m there until the papers are done. Of course this is the night to which they chose to move Survivor for two weeks. Last week my husband and kids taped it for me but it was so late when I got home I didn’t even bother watching it. I ended up watching it on Thursday, during the day while trying to watch my 1 year old who was not really into it since there are no Teletubbies on Survivor. It just wasn’t the same. Tonight, I actually got home at a relatively decent hour and was really looking forward to sitting down and watching the show that my husband had taped for me… Can you feel it coming? I pop in the tape, hit play and there’s a lot of fuzz. Well, maybe he didn’t rewind it. Ok, maybe he rewound it too far. Ok, maybe he took the real tape out and put in a fake-nothing-on-it tape cause he thought it would be funny to see me fall into a puddle of tears cause I just wanted to come home after working ten hours and sit down and watch the one stupid show out of all the completely stupid and obnoxious shows that are on the stupid tv that I actually like to watch. Or maybe he didn’t set the vcr up right, didn’t bother to check it and there was nothing on the stupid tape to watch. Yep, that last one would be it. If anyone is still reading this, here’s my question and the real point of this post. Does anyone know of a site that does summaries of the shows? Or would anyone be willing to tackle trying to do one here or email one to me? Otherwise I’ll be reduced to grilling my 8 year old for the details since apparently she watched the whole thing while it wasn’t being taped. For her sake, I thank you.

Of course they don’t have the recap up yet, but I usually go here to check up on shows I’ve missed.

Or you could check out the official website at

They even have video clips from the episode and you can see who voted for whom at Tribal Council.

Sorry you missed it. If I had taped it, I’d gladly send you the tape, but alas, I watched it live. :frowning:

If only “Survivor” still had last year’s sponsors. After his performance this week, Sean would be a perfect spokesman for Target.

Personally, I picked Sarah as this week’s loser as soon as she picked up the yellow bandana. I could just imagine her thinking … no scratch that, I can’t imagine her thinking … but she must have been worried when she saw her new team; “Oh no, I’m on a team with three other women. My entire strategy of winning a million dollars by showing off my boobs is now gone.”

If there is a god in TV land, we can only hope that the Rotus lose their next two immunity challenges and Dumb and Dumber are banished before the merger. Personally I hope they Silas their sorry asses and intentionally throw the challenges just so they can vote them off. In fact, I hope they go one better than last year and do it so obviously that Rob and Sean know it’s being done.

First off: Salem, hie thee over to our own David B.'s site www.realitynewsonline.com for excellent episode summaries and general insight.

Now that my mod butt-kissing is taken care of…

It would’ve been sweet had Rotu thrown the challenge last night, but to be honest, the only way they would’ve lost is if they had just set fire to the damn tapestry. Could’ve Mu-mu (Version 2.0) have been any less effective? Had they ever done a jigsaw puzzle before? You always start with the edges. Sheesh.

Rob. To be honest, I can’t wait for the big reunion show after the last episode when Probst shows Rob his little soliloquy from last night. “So, Robert. About your little sausage…” And the crack about Rotu now being a tribe with 8 men is really going to endear him to the women.

Sean. Add a big “me too” to what everyone else has said. When he started saying that he could hear the Roots theme playing, I just shook my head. He’s probably one of the most visible (and therefore most able to affect public opinion) African-Americans on TV today, and he is rapidly devolving into a very bad stereotype.

I wasn’t sure about Sarah getting kicked though. It seemed too obvious. Normally when they telegraph someone’s fate so much prior to tribal council, it’s usually a ruse. I thought maybe Kathy might get a surprise vacation.

As far as the switch goes, I liked it. I wonder how much thought went into buff placement. If I was tight with someone (Rob and Sarah) and was told to randomly stand on a disk without knowing why, I might try to stand next to my buddies. Did they intentionally alternate colors (as best they could with only 5 Miramax) to try and break up alliances?

Man, Rob and Sean are impressive. I liked the fact that they kept the numbers of the reconstituted tribes the same. So when do they merge? At 10? Now Rotu still has 8, and M__ has 4. 2 more to go. What kind of challenges will they be able to set up for them to compete? Were they ever hopeless at that puzzle!

I went into this intending to dislike scripture toting Neleh and the flag waving conservative judge. But now, not only have I been impressed with the both of them, but there are many others I would like to see get the boot earlier.

How come no one has called for Tammy going a long way? It is kind of sad to see Gina grasping at straws. Tho she desrved better, she’s toast.

I could imagine Rotu tossing the next couple of challenges, just to save their old teammates. It has happened before. Otherwise, I’d guess Gina goes next, and then Kathy.

Side note: yesterday afternoon my buddy e-mailed me a site that called it correctly ahead of time (and was pretty darned amusingly sarcastic). They are 4 for 4 so far, and seem to have access to the shows before airing. Anyone interested in the link?

Stand in line, bucko! :smiley:

I was thinking that Rob is dumber than a bag of rocks that was buried in the bottom of a pile of a million dumb bags of rocks that were personally and dumbly placed in the pile by Dumb John Dumbrock of Dumbstown, in the town square of Dumb City which is the capital of Dumbland.

I have this habit of making pained-animal noises when I see someone who is obviously put into pain whenever he tries to get a higher thought. Yeah, I “Arrrooh-ree-ow”'d Rob. I’m reminded of a line from Twin Peaks: [Miguel Ferrer, laughing] “Hey look. It’s trying to think!”

The man couldn’t think his way out of a cul de sac, and yet he fancies himself an evil genius. Too bad he’ll probably breed eventually.

And Sean! Egads, man! “If you even suggest I do a lick of work, then you’re an ugly racist!” What? Being Black absolves you of any responsibility? That’s a racist attitude! You think that because you had a rough life in the city, that the world owes you a living? Wake up and smell the coconuts! Very few people in this country have wealth heaped upon them. If you want to get ahead, you have to work for it. “These guys work all the time! I want to lay in the sun!” Pitiful.

Sean can bite it as far as I’m concerned, but I’d like to see Rob make it farther. His downfall will be so much sweeter! But he’s probably too stupid to appreciate it.

I feel a little sorry for Velociraptor. She doesn’t seem a bad sort; she’s just fallen in with a bad crowd. She’s given up though, so she’s gone after Rob and Sean. But I’d still rather see her go before Robidiot.

Okay, the immunity challenge. “Do the eyes first! Do the eyes first! Kraawk! Polly want a cracker!” Geez, you start at a side and work your way up! I’ve never woven anything, but even I know that you don’t make a bolt of cloth from the middle out! Damn, they should have won that! Pretty Gina is getting closer to the hotel…