Top Chef 6/11- open spoilers

I don’t think Hung is bad looking for an asian guy. Of course, it’s relative-- I would think he’s fairly handsome for a Vietnamese guy but I don’t really know… See, even you seem to imply that Tiffany wasn’t pretty because she was bitchy, proving my point…

It’s four beautiful people picking other beautiful people to win. The Top Chef glass ceiling to as yet be broken is an ugly Top Chef. It’ll never happen because of the medium.

I did not prove your point. I said Tiffany was pretty when she wasn’t being bitchy. Not that she wasn’t pretty because she was a bitch. When she was being bitchy she had that bitch sneer thing going on that Lisa also did so well, which doesn’t compliment one’s face, no matter how attractive one may actually be. And Leeann was the cutest of that season’s final four so by your theory she should have won or Tiffany should have won because she was prettier. Harold, the winner, was just an average looking guy, not a troll by any means but not exactly male model potential.

I didn’t say Hung was ugly but he certainly wasn’t the most attractive of his final group, that would have been Casey. Even that season’s Dale was more attractive if he would have got rid of the faux hawk (guys, those do’s look dumb). So if they picked by looks I still think Hung disproves your theory. I’m sure someone, somewhere may think him attractive but I don’t think the Top chef judges gave him the win because they felt he was a handsome Asian man. He was also considered pretty arrogant and inconsiderate but he is a good chef and that is why he won.

And although Stephanie is cute, you wouldn’t say that she’s “TV Pretty”. I’m pretty sure they made their decision based on food. And the correct decision, IMHO.

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And the really ugly ones don’t even make it past the screening/interview process. There’s no evidence, because they never make it on the show in the first place.

What exactly is your problem here and why are you so intent on finding some kind of bias in those who did not like Lisa? Have you watched the whole season?

People did not like Lisa because every time when she was in the bottom 3 (which happened for the last 6-7 shows!!) she stood there scowling, sneering down her nose at the judges with her arms crossed in front of her. She projected an ugly attitude.

On the first episode, when I saw Steph, I commented to my wife that the sweet-faced curly-haired girl-next-door type seemed to be on every season of every Bravo competition/reality show, but never wins. She said, “maybe she will this time,” and we started rooting for her then. Can I go back and put ten bucks on it? :smiley:

Glad that Stephanie pulled it off. She was pretty consistent throughout the season and the final was no exception.

The surprise of the final was Lisa. I’m happy that she finally got to show more than her scowl.

My scorecard at home had Stephanie on top, Lisa almost pulling off the upset for 2nd and Richard limping in to last place.

I just wish they had named third place followed by naming the Top Chef to build up the suspense after Judge’s table.

Dayum, she’s a real cutie when she’s not all sweaty and has her hair down.

Seriously, Kudos, Stephanie. She’s hot and a food goddess.

Kudos to Lisa for taking the silver.

I guess I got no point. I was just trying to illuminate the plight of ugly people everywhere. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

I just feel bad for the losers, it’s easy to be Top Chef but can you imagine what the losers have to deal with? I can’t imagine it is worth it?..or?

Nominated for backhanded compliment of the year.

Sure, it’s easy to take it out of its context and call it backhanded…

I also don’t think Spike is that bad looking for a white guy. That’s relative too, because I’m a guy and white. I’m just trying to live up to the subjectiveness of Top Chef and the popularity contest that it really is, I figure Hung pulled in a lot of the Asian women demographic last year.

But a good looking guy is a good looking guy. Why make it specific to race? Is Jennifer Lopez good looking for a Hispanic chick or is just good looking? Is Beyonce hot for a black chick or is she just hot?

I’m with you on not really being able to gauge atttactiveness in guys, but I can figure out that Antonio Banderas is not just attractive to Latino women or Denzel to black women.

But that’s my whole point! Wile E is the one who insinuated but stopped short of calling Hung ugly. I stepped in and gave my objective view that I thought he was pretty good looking, relative to my outlook. Yea, I can appreciate beauty in all ethnicities… Beauty is Beauty, period.

But seriously, if you were to do an objective facial and feature anlysis of the top chefs I’ll bet they all rate pretty high in attractiveness. Hung probably moreso in his proportions and general youthful appearence to an asian and caucasian demographic.

After my last post I figured you had to be whooshing us and just trying to be contrary for shits and giggles but since you implied that I insinuated and stopped short of calling Hung ugly I have to respond again. I specifically said he wasn’t ugly but he certainly wasn’t the most attractive of his group, the latter I said twice. Your point seemed to be that only the attractive people win. My point was that you were wrong.

Would you agree that only the beautiful people make it on the show, and win? They got a Simon Cowell on duty as gatekeeper or a whole team of them…every reality show does.

Dude, seriously, did you even watch the show? Look through those bios for the chefs. Not all of them are good looking, and few are “beautiful”. What is this allegedly objective system of facial analysis you keep blathering about?

FTR, upthread, you called Stephanie “hot”. Uh, seriously? She is, at best, a 6. And that’s totally fine, for a chef. People shouldn’t expect her to be drop-dead gorgeous in that field; she just has to cook well. One can’t win 'em all, and all that. The show has fuck-all to do with physical attractiveness; it’s about the food. I’ll believe Tom Collicio over you any day of the week on that particular point. This isn’t The Bachelor or America’s Next Top Model, it’s a competition for chefs.

Also, to further your hijack of craziness (at least I had the decency to open my thread about this in the Pit), what does Simon Cowell have to do with beautiful people getting on to reality shows? Do you own a television? Dude, Ruben-fucking-Studdard won season two of AI, and he’s not exactly great looking. Fantasia Barrino won a later season, and most of AI’s viewership would not identify her as beautiful. So, not only do unattractive people get on reality shows, including the most popular one out there, sometimes they even win them! And Cowell doesn’t wave his magic wand to make them go away!

To be blunt, it seems like you’re talking out of your ass. As I said in the Pit, whatever issues you have are your own; if you feel unattractive, you don’t have to jump to the defense of everyone that anyone else calls ugly. This whole hijack of yours started because you didn’t like that some one pointed out that Lisa looks like a bitch, and her sneer while being criticized is quite ugly. Somehow, you morphed this into a vast conspiracy to keep the ugly off TV. Unfortunately for you, the show the rest of us in this very thread have been watching, Top Chef, proves you wrong. Lisa looks like a bitch, I have a beer-gut, my computer desk is black, the South Pole lies to the south, and you’ve completely hijacked this thread with your bullshit.

Lisa is ugly, you say? Do you know her, in her personal life? Can you even acknowledge a person through that Jade? Keep judging people based on your greed, jealousy, and prejudices. See how far that goes.

Again, you crazy hippie, your lack of reading comprehension amazes me. I don’t see the words “Lisa is ugly” anywhere in my post. I see, “Lisa looks like a bitch.” I also see, “Lisa has a sneer which looks ugly.” These are different than “Lisa is ugly.”

And what about this objective “classical-beauty facial analysis” that you speak of? Or any of the other crazy shit you’ve said so far?

Wait, that’s right, you just came in here to bitch about something. Somewhere in the world, someone called another person unattractive, and you had to jump in and save… uh… who? I’m guessing your own self esteem.

And where have I judged people based on my own “greed” or “jealousy”? Prejudices? Well, that’s a broad enough of a term that I can’t say I don’t judge people on those. What are my prejudices? I’m not sure. I don’t even see where I’ve stated any prejudices. Why don’t you tell me what I’m prejudiced against so I can at least defend my self?

Oh, it’s a science. Guaranteed.

It’s the science of the seeing. Your arrows are not barbed. They are just frustrated. You must want to save something, just like me.

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Okay, since you refuse to actually acknowledge anything I’ve said, I have to infer that you’re a moron, and it’s time for me to move on. You have proven nothing except that you’re full of shit.