- Somebody will complain about the uniforms and ask why they can’t be red, gold, and blue.
What the hell? They made you watch TNG to catch up on Trek lore and then had you, as a Ferengi, fight a Klingon?
He must’ve been portraying one of the first/second season Ferengis of TNG where they were vicious and not as concerned about the acquisition of wealth (!).
He would just catch me and place me under arrest. I’d run, we would have him hit me. I’d fly across the room and as I tried to get up he would kick me in the face. In stage combat the person getting hit does all of the work. Any punch I threw would look like a fly swatting a mosquito. Any time he hit me, I would fly back pretty good. It was definately being pretty liberal with the guidelines, but the kids dug it. Either way, I never won, unless the Vulcan showed up and gave him the grip treatment for abusing a prisoner. Then we’d carry him off and . . .
Never mind. It wasn’t real people. What’s wrong with you people?
We aren’t people, we’re Trekkies!
Wait. . .
What? It wasn’t real? They didn’t really transform you into a Ferngi and you weren’t fighting real Klingons?
Crash
(that was the sound of our illusions being shattered)
dalovindj, I hope I don’t sound too snotty about this, but please don’t make the mistake of thinking that just because we enjoy getting a little silly in these threads that we are out of touch with reality. It may just be that the people here are a little curious about your experience. We’ve all seen the people performing in various roles like that at parks, but not very many of us have had the chance to see what goes on behind the scenes and so may wonder things such as “do the people who put these things together care about authenticity, or do they just throw people in costume and send them out there?”
I understand if it’s a painful experience for you to re-live unhappy memories. If that’s the case, please just let us know that rather than insulting our intelligence.
New guy checking in. Trekkie Background: Loved TNG, watched every episode countless times. Never watched any other series until Enterprise, of which I’ve seen every episode.
My biggest Enterprise complaint is that planet not orbiting a sun had a lush jungle on it. [Jon Stewart]Whhhaaaa???[/Jon Stewart]
You would think my biggest complaint would be the theme song, but as I TiVo them, I haven’t heard anything past “It’s been…”
Need more decontamination scenes.
But of course I’ll be watching! I’ve got to keep an eye out for any more Tellarites, firstly. And I’ve got to get my weekly quota of Phlox and Archer.
And I can’t miss Porthos!
Seriously, how can I -not- give Enterprise a chance? I’m still of the opinion, however that Berman & Braga (aka “Bermaga?”) have made a travesty of the Trek franchise. But I’ll still watch; in the mean time, though, I’m going to check out more of the ST novels, including a book of short stories submitted by fans/writers for a “contest” that has been held yearly for several years (I think it’s on the 6th year, or at least they’ve put out 6 volumes) and see if those stories are any good. Can’t recall the name of the volumes off the top of my head, however.
I was just kidding. I was making a slightly veiled reference to William Shatner’s performance on Saturday Night Live. If you didn’t see it (yeah, right), Shatner goes ballistic on a bunch of fans asking him really specific questions. Questions like “In episode 134,
what was the combination to the safe?”. Didn’t mean to insult you (well, not really). I was just poking a little fun. In my defense, I will claim membership in the group “trekkers”, which allows me to mock them openly (since I’m one of them).
Also, I was at an Internet Kiosk, and I was out of time (prematurely do to a disconnect induced reboot - “You have 60 seconds until Self De. . . err . . . Reboot” - grrrr), and was looking for a zippy way to end the post quick. I was playing around with being the “jaded outsider looking in” on account of feeling left out of those mysterious other theads. I’m just jealous that I haven’t gotten to watch Enterprise, although it sounds like I’m lucky I missed Voyager. Either way, I’ve found a new love in 24, so ya’ll can have your exclusive little club while I watch my future wife run. Run Kim. Run.
I’d be glad to answer any questions anyone has. I’m just playin’ rough. Hope I didn’t break anybody. To answer the one question posed, I never defeated the Kilngon without the Vulcan (who really played the part well) or another Klingon coming to my aid for some reason or another. Usually a con. I could occaisionally hope to score an escape, but never a win. Except that one day I deceided to play myself as a robot assasin version of myself (as a Ferengi). When the Klingon went for me, it was as if I had super strength. He acted like he was shocked and in pain as I caught his arm mid-swing and started to squeeze. Some trekkers started complaining until they heard my robot assasin schtick, and then the Vulcan came in and disabled me right before I was about to get a kill. It was like fan-fic, only it was real. Loved it. Ahhhhh. . . I mean . . . I hated it. Hated it, you hear. I . . . it was . . . how could I like . . . demeaning . . . I would never . . .
Damn. I promised myself I wouldn’t cry . . .
DaLovin’ Dj
Eh. Voyager had its ups and downs. Some was good. Some was not so good.
When I heard about Enterprise, I was happy to hear Scott Bakula was cast (since I loved Quantum Leap), but not so immediately happy about the “prequel” aspect (canon? what canon?). Was quickly disappointed to see them encountering an alien (in like the 3rd or 4th episode) that had holodeck technology, and then even more so when they gave it to the Klingons. (Although there was the fun goofy line uttered by a Klingon in the holo-simulation of their homeworld, “I can see my house from here!”)
But I thought it got better later in the first season.
The second season? Well… that didn’t happen. Figment of my imagination.
Now I’m completely with you there! As you’ve no doubt seen in our threads last season, I’m among the ranks of the drooling 24 addicts.
Now how is she going to be your future wife when next season she will obviously get captured by a band of vigilante mimes, escape, and then be abducted by anal-probing aliens? Run Kim Run!
Me too. Quantum Leap is the finest sci-fi ever on TV IMO, with one of the coolest final episodes of any series ever. He tried to do movies, and they sucked. I was glad to see him back on TV. I like his Archer. I like his optimism. I was looking forward to watching it get crushed. He should ultimately end up jaded and battle scarred. I just haven’t had time to watch.
Who do you think is going to send the aliens? I’ve still got connections. But seriously, me and Elisha Cuthbert (the actress) have something special. Something no one but us can understand. She really will be my wife. She really will. This isn’t some delusional fantasy world (like the trekies live in), it’s reality. In real time. With the loudness of our digital clocks being surpassed only by the sound of our 2 hearts as 1. You can’t stop our love.
DaLovin’ Dj
DaLovin Dj
Fair enough. Don’t worry about playing a little rough - as you can see, we pick on each other a fair amount. Unfortunately, one of the problems with a written forum like this is you can’t always tell when someone is joking. And I’ve seen way too many instances when people are having friendly discussions about some piece of fiction and some twit comes along and tells them in a very superior manner that “it’s just a movie/book/tv show/(whatever)”
It did occur to me after I wrote that post that you might be referencing the Saturday Night Live sketch. If the board hadn’t gone into its maintenence time shortly after I wrote it, I was going to make a follow up post along the lines of, “that was the evil Dalovin’ Dj from episode…” No hard feelings.
Now for a brief hijack. While I agree that Quantum Leap was a great show (that got a little silly as they were reaching for ratings in the last season), how can you say that the final episode was one of the coolest ever? It had the potential to be one of the coolest ever, but IMHO, they blew it. I was fine with it until the very last line that informs us that Sam never returned home. What?!! I can see him making the choice to continue to do his part to help but it seems to be uncecessarily cruel that the “bartender” doesn’t give him the option to take a day off now and then, just to be able to spend some time with his wife, who, by the way, seems to have been conveniently forgotten by the writers by this point. And if he can’t, if by returning home again he can never leap back out, then let us know that and give him a choice with all the facts. Let him know that he has a wife and a daughter and let him choose to sacrifice his time with them for the greater good.
Uh, sorry. I appear to have gone off on a rant there. Sorry. Season three! Hoshi! Porthos! Panda! Xindi!
Hey, I just had a thought. Maybe it was a garbled translation: they really meant Kzinti rather than Xindi and Larry Niven is taking over…
The thing is that Sam DID have a choice to take a day off, or even stop all together if he wanted. Not only that, but the bartender tells him he was ALWAYS in control of his leaps. He can, and always could, leap as much or as little as he wants to, to wherever he wants (within his lifetime - more or less). That is what makes him cry. He starts to cry because he knows it is true. He has allowed his concious to see what his sub-concious was keeping from him. He leaps because he hates evil. He leaps to make the world a better place. He leaps because if he doesn’t, then who will? And he gave up his wife, his friends, his life for this noble cause. They weren’t TAKEN from him, he gave them up so he could do his job properly.
The final episode reveals him to be a VERY powerful individual. He realizes, as a moral man, that these powers come with great responsibility. He can either step up to the plate, or he can leave the cause to others. He opts to leap and help people and he sacrifices his personal life to make everyone elses life better. It is noble and tragic at the same time. What does his old life matter in the scheme of things? Seriously, when balanced against all of the evil that he can undo? He devotes his new life to the cause at the price of his old life.
How can a time travelling guardian ever really relate to a normal person and live out a life that would be fair to his partner? He must distance himself, because he may die in action on any mission, and his morality will not allow him to not go on missions. He may not have the balls to do what has to be done if he is worrying about what his death will do to his wife. So she must believe he is gone, as he needed to believe she didn’t exist to do his job. The real kicker for me is finding out that it is SELF repression based in his innate moral code. Awesome. Sad. Powerful. I loved it. He never leaps home by choice. Also, it pretty much allows them to go wherever they want with movies (which I would go see several times even if they sucked) or another series.
Good one. I had forgotten about that line.
DaLovin’ Dj
I agree, dalovin – although I saw that last sacrifice as a more specific one and a much more personal sacrifice. Sam knew he had to sacrifice his own chance at going “home” to right the wrong for Al. In fact, something he could have fixed earlier, except he was there to do something else (and got to save his own brother in the process). And I think the ending – the final picture of him and Al together – very powerful last image.
I thought it was really cool that they had Dean Stockwell guest star on an Enterprise episode. (Although I keep half expecting him to open an imaging-chamber door onto the bridge and tell Archer that Gushy thinks there’s a 75% chance that he’s supposed to play “doctor” with his Vulcan first officer… ;))
I’ll ask her about that when we wake up tomorrow morning, before she fixes me breakfast.
Hey, now. You can highjack Trek threads all you want but not to talk about other sci-fi franchises! Keep it up and I’ll have to unload my phaser in your ass!*
*No, I’m not going to tell you if that’s a euphemism either.
Hi ya, tarragon…Don’t forget the weekly Trip quota too. Seriously, there’s some very nicely written fan fic (and a contest) at www.houseoftucker.com (click on the top box for Trip only, not Trip paired with others).
I would have been here sooner, but the casino called and I actually won a chunk on an Austin Powers time portal 2-cent slot. I think Scott Evil was involved.
- When Porthos gets cheese, it will be dog ugly goat cheese (a reference from another thread).
P.S.
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Notice that I made an obligatory Enterprise mention in the middle of my hijack, and keep your 3 inch phaser to yourself and away from my ass, please!
Psst, viva, that isn’t a communicator in my pocket.
And you, Monstre are obviously suffering from phaser envy. I could understand why, with you having that puny little dustbuster and my having a Mark III Compression Rifle, but still… there’s no need to snipe!
Aes, you’re obviously obsessed with locking your targeting scanners on my ass, but I must remind you that, fine as it is, it’s an unloading bay only.
Now, about my state-of-the-art photon torpedo launcher…
Perchance you mean quantum torpedo launcher? State of the art photon torpedo launcher is a bit of an oxymoron… not to be confused with just plain ol’ moron, which is a synonym for a Star Wars fan. ;j