IMO the specification of “white man” and the attractiveness angle was very off-putting and sexist. As other people pointed out. It wasn’t just the intermittent odd-fixation post, there was something else creepy going on there.
No way jackass isn’t a troll. He started a GD thread which, as of right now, only has his OP, on why we shouldn’t allow illegal aliens into the country. One of his enlightened points is some of those folks have better iPhones than he has.
Indeed. And since I don’t want to dignify their thread with a response, I’ll just offer this comment: the assertion that “Most of our ancestors had to come into the country legally in a time where they were discriminated against” is pretty worthless. Because ot wasn’t until the 1880s that the US had any significant restrictions on immigration, and then only for people of Chinese ancestry (and gradually other countries in Asia as well). It wasn’t until the 1920s that the US really had a comprehensive immigration system. It wasn’t until the 1960s that it put in place quotas on immigration from the Western Hemisphere.
In short, for those who were allowed to immigrate (ie: not excluded on explicitly racist grounds, starting in the 1880s) for most of the nation’s history, there were no laws to violate. One could merely arrive at a port of entry, no visa, no papers of any kind, and be admitted. Simple as that.
I know, I know. It’s shocking to learn that a racist is telling half truths, but they do that sometimes.
I started to ask them, how much discrimination do you want the country to add back until you think it’s fair, but I didn’t want to feed such an obvious troll. I think that’s the sort of response they want to get.
Yeah. Usually it’s just 100% false.
But, hey, he did provide us this stellar observation:
They drive down the wages, allowing the rich to get richer. People say without cheap labor on the farms, our economy can’t thrive, but weren’t slaves a form of cheap labor that helped the Southern economy thrive?
He also kind of alluded to, but didn’t outright say, “anchor babies”. I’m wondering how many posts in (assuming he doesn’t get cornfielded) that’ll appear from jackass.
Christ, Velocity is such a doofus…
Yeah. Hey! I guess we go a BOGO deal in that thread.
Velocity’s bit about open borders was amusing in a sad way. IME a certain largish segment of American society support open borders on (the great white) north, but closed borders down (on the Brown) south.
Velocity isn’t a troll, he’s just a cheerful and oblivious moron. All his rah-rah bullshit in the Ukraine threads about rooting for the underdog to open up a can of whoop-ass on the visiting team like he’s waving a foam finger from the cheap seats? It’s indescribably ignorant and staggeringly stupid, but it’s also entirely sincere. He doesn’t belong in this thread.
Drat. I was hoping to use BOGO correctly.
And jackass’s thread is now “pending review”
If he’s not found to be a trock of some kind, I’m guessing the thread will be offered up for transfer to the Pit as it’s certainly not a debate in good faith.
And that jackass won’t respond, so it’ll stay closed.
Welp, I was wrong about that. So I bit the bullet and dissected the “7 points” in the assumption (warranted or not) of good faith myself.
We shall see what transpires.
Who could have predicted the immigration thread would end up like it has? It would take some sort of internet wizard to see that outcome. We have our resident “great replacement”/“white genocide” believers delivering the goods.
I saw the reference to ‘true citizens of America’ and the jaw just dropped wide open and stayed that way for a minute.
But yeah sure, none of this is based in racism at all, nosiree, Bob! It’s ok when my in-group but not otherwise!
Actually, I think in that post it referred to Native Americans.
Though that seems to me to imply that the person who posted it should be apologizing, packing up, and going away; though to where is less clear. I suppose they might be Native American, but I’d think they’d have said so by now if so. And if not, considering that post, they certainly shouldn’t be saying, as they are, ‘I’m entirely entitled to be here, it’s just those Other People who aren’t’!
And I just got banned from the thread for saying that it’s xenophobic/racist to call immigrants “millions of invaders.” This is some bullshit. I wasn’t trying to feed the troll, but accidentally fed the racist motherfuckers of the board.
It very obviously did but was still shocking.
Just so.
But none of it makes any real sense on any level of examination. The “Native Americans” did not arrive in the Americas in a single wave. Our best current knowledge says there were several waves of migration across a wide span of years.
Which ones are the ‘true’ Americans? All of them? Just lump them all together? And that the 2nd European (after the relatively inconsequential Norse) migration is the major cutoff? If so, that itself says a lot about the poster and the concept as well.
I’m staying out of that mess. It’s chock full of fuckery and trolling
And the thread got closed while I was composing a lengthy response to bump’s assertions. Grr.
But yeah, while I would agree you stepped over the line, the “invaders” thing was also straying well into threadshitting territory.
True. Doesn’t excuse the behavior of the Europeans, however; at least, not those (and there were a lot of them) who were deliberately trying to exterminate the previous populations.
Has nothing to do with the current situation, however – except maybe that some people have the frame of mind ‘we did this, so anybody wanting to move here must mean to do this to us, because Everybody Thinks Like Me™’?
I was also composing; but the thread said it would automatically re-open in 13 minutes, so I figure I’ll just wait to post.
Thread is reopened, It was temporary.
Wow, I was ninja’d.