True Blood 10/05

Thank the gods I disagree with everything GildedLily says about this show. I’m loving all of it still.

It killed me to watch Sookie eat the last of the pie her grandmother made- I was crying like a baby.

And that Bill Compton. I feel like a 15 year old. Obsessed!

One of the things I like about the show is that there clearly are very good reasons for humans not to welcome the vampires with open arms. Bill’s three vampire “friends” clearly illustrated that, and the more we learn about the vampires’ abilities, the clearer it is that they pose a very real threat. As so often happens in real life, people in the True Blood world are being told that they only have two extreme options: accept vampires completely or reject them completely. I think the show shows the cracks in both arguments. I wish I could ask the sheriff what he plans to do if it turns out that the murder is a vampire. Arrest him? Sure, if you can catch and subdue him. Then throw him in jail until the vampire glamours the guard into letting him go. Say you make it all the way through the trial and he’s found guilty; what’s an appropriate sentence for someone who’s immortal? It’s not too hard to look past the extremes of “vampires are just people” and “vampires are Satan’s spawn” to see that there are all sorts of ways in which the structure of human society isn’t adequate to handle vampires.

I’m really disappointed with Sookie for letting Bill bite her. I just don’t think it’s a idea. (Even if it was pretty hot.)

I’m more disappointed with Bill, for taking advantage. Sookie was especially vulnerable after Granny’s death and that awful funeral. Now she’s marked, and she’ll be even more of an outcast in Bon Temps.

But yeah, it was hot.

I’m not disappointed with either - yet - they’ve swerved us before with Sookie dream sequences, wouldnt surprise me that this was yet another of them.

I kind of overly fixated on the pie. It looked disgusting. It couldn’t possibly have been pecan pie with that runny-poop texture and color. Maybe a caramel cream pie with pecans on top? Like I said, overly fixated.

Plus, the crust was undercooked.

ICK!

Jeebus Christos, that should’ve read “a good idea,” not “a idea.” Shows me for posting without coffee.

And you’re right, AuntiePam, it’s Bill’s fault too for taking advantage. I’m just not as surprised by it on his part. I still have reservations about him.

Maybe, but I’ll be upset if it is. They shouldn’t end the episode with a dream sequence.

I don’t mind dream sequences but I don’t like being faked out by them. That’s not how to use a dream sequence. The other dream sequence where Sookie went to Bill in her nightie was obvious – we were with Sookie in bed, asleep. But in this one, Sookie wasn’t in bed or asleep.

I thought Bill’s dream about Sookie being choked was poorly done, but I liked seeing him powerless and worrying about her.

Hello Again, the pie squicked me out too. I couldn’t detect a crust, and the pecans looked like legless bugs. And this might be gross, but I wouldn’t eat half a pecan pie and then rush out for a romantic encounter. Burrrrrrrrrrrrp.

The Weird One, again, me too, reservations. But I guess if he could control himself there wouldn’t be a story.

That didn’t look like any pecan pie I’ve ever made or eaten. It had entirely the wrong texture. And she ate more than a third of it at one sitting -a third of a real pecan pie would send tiny little Anna Paquin into diabetic shock.

Sookie putting on her long white nightgown and running across the graveyard to Bill was a bit gothic, wasn’t it?

The blood sucking scenes are very gross and messy as depicted on this show, in contrast to the erotic images you get when reading vampire romance.

This is one of the things I find most interesting about vampires - that they are incredibly powerful at night, yet utterly helpless during the day.

Yeah, if that wasn’t a dream sequence, then it was pretty overdone. I couldn’t figure out why she would wear such a romantic nightgown at first. When I saw her embrace Bill I said, “My God, she’s made herself up as a sacrificial virgin!”

It looked to me like Bill was sleeping under the house. What is to stop someone from running a bulldozer through the house and right over him during daylight hours? If vampires are going to be so powerless during the day, seems to me like they would not want anyone to even know where the sleep.

Killing Bill would be like killing a normal human being. Anyone who wants to kill him is going to have to be just as careful as if they were killing anyone else. T’aint like other vampire shows, where they’re fair game.

Under the floor is good. It’d take some doing to find him there.

Your loin and gazelle metaphor shows why there is no vampire as gay metaphor.

Gay people shouldn’t have to repress their behavior to go mainstream, but vampires obviously do.

We’ve disagreed on gender issues in previous HBO threads*, so I guess it’s not surprising I disagree with you here again. Yes means yes. I don’t think it’s appropriate to blame a guy for taking advantage of a woman. Women are perfectly capable of taking responsibility for their own decisions. If they later regret those decisions, the blame is not on the guy for not being psychic. (This is generic argument. The fact that Sookie is actually psychic is purely coincidental.)

*Couldn’t find the thread, but that Big Love episode where Bill’s daughter caught her “boyfriend” seeing “another woman.” My position was they weren’t exclusive, meaning he wasn’t in the wrong. You felt he was a scumbag because he should have known she assumed they were exclusive. Again, expecting the guy to be psychic.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot: Anna Paquin naked! This is the greatest show ever made. What’s next, a lesbian three-way with Lacey Chabert and Rachel Bilson?

Ohhhhh, I don’t know. Sookie did say yes, but she went to Bill intending to lose just her virginity. Then the fangs came out and suddenly Sookie’s faced with another momentous choice. Bill pulls back and says something like “Are you sure?” What’s she gonna say? “Well, I wanted to do this one thing but gimme a minute to think about the other thing.”

It’s dramatically effective, the way it happened, but the pragmatic side of me wishes Bill would have found a way to explain to Sookie what happens when you make love with a vampire. But then the scene wouldn’t have been so exciting.

I agree with **AuntiePam **- it is a little scummy to sleep with a woman for the first time (especially when she’s a virgin) on the day of her mother/grandmother’s funeral.

But I’m pretty sure that Sookie knew ahead of time that bloodsucking would be involved.

Hopefully in graphic detail, with lots of visual aids. :smiley:

:smiley: That made me chuckle.

I’m afraid I agree. I really, really wanted to like this show, but I’ve pretty much given up on any show based in the southern US. What’s frustrating is that they get some of the local details just right, but are flat out too lazy to make the modern southern world realistic, and to me, the geography is supposed to be one of the characters of the show.

I lived in Louisiana for 15 years, both in the north where I guess the show is supposed to be located (apparently Monroe is a short car ride away), and in the far south, where it looks like the show is actually taking place. I was especially disappointed with the generic “southern” accents. The accents I heard in Louisiana are Louisiana south, Cajun, and basic general American (what I’ve heard Cajuns call “talking flat”). I don’t think I’ve ever heard the accent that Sookie or Tara is supposed to have. (The show does have one character with a Cajun accent that’s pretty close).

South Louisiana has the strongest sense of place of anywhere I’ve ever been. I was glad to leave (poverty, wild fundamentalism, and so on), but I hate seeing what the show’s done with it. The touches that ring true (is the bar Merlotte’s a play on Mulate’s, a semi-famous Cajun restaurant?) tell me they could have done a great job if they hadn’t cut corners with stereotypes.

Sorry, end of rant. I didn’t realize I felt so strongly.

Who? Is it Rene? I can’t tell if it’s an accurate accent or not, but I like the way he talks. “Where’re you going, you?”

Yeah, that’s him. I didn’t know the character’s name. Cajuns will often repeat the pronoun as emphasis: “I won’t take it, me.”