Wait, I’m halfway through E2, how is there no mention here that
the research station is funded by Tuttle United? A big S1 callback there.
Also, I’m generally enjoying this, but Jodie Foster’s character is so unlikeable.
Probably because season 1 came out in 2014! I have no memory of what the name in your spoiler means. If they expect the average viewer of this show to remember tiny details from 10 years ago, they will be sorely mistaken. It’s not even like this show had seasons each year to keep it in the consciousness.
Yeah, good season 1 memory. RE: this I posted earlier in the thread:
I since read somewhere that Issa Lopez, the writer / director for this season confirmed that indeed, Travis Cohle was Rust Cohle’s father. So that plus your observation shows there’s a strong tie-in to season 1 going on.
Sort of appropriate for the “things in Movies/TV…” thread also going on. I’ve been getting really distracted by the CGI snow effects as flakes swirl about but everyone’s coats/shoulders/hair remain pristine and flakeless. There is also very rarely, if any, cloudy breath from anyone.
Those ones are ghosts. Is John Carpenter a consultant on this show?
It’s all gonna burn at the end, isn’t it.
Hijack, but between the cold and the endless nights, I can’t imagine living there.
Started out really enjoying this one, but the more it becomes American Horror Story: Ennis, Alaska the less I’m interested in the resolution. Will watch until the end, but I think the question of “will this show have a supernatural or realistic” resolution was effectively answered in episode 4.
Yeah. I was hopeful at first but now will finish just for finishing’s sake.
I’m still hopeful. I definitely feel like it’s actual supernatural stuff happening, and I don’t like that, but not convinced yet that is where we are at. I still see plausible explanations but would like to know if I’m trying to hard.
Most of the supernatural stuff is only one person’s POV/imagination. No shared experiences which would be difficult to explain. Two real explanations are present: There are actual mentally ill people in this story or there is the “ancient organism” (think LSD). It might be bad science, but both offer a real mechanism to cause hallucinations versus truly supernatural stuff occurring.
I can’t keep it all straight between episodes, but what were the supernatural stuff from episode 4? I remember Navarro saw/heard some stuff (hallucination). I remember drunk Danver and the one-eyed polar bear (probably real). What else?
One thing which is definitely from the audiences POV is the scene where the guy in the hospital sits up. Navarro is looking away from him as he is lying in bed, the camera frames the two of them… her looking down the hall, the guy lying in bed… and keeping within this frame we (the audience, not Navarro) see him sit up and open his eyes.
I think there are other shots like this, but this one is the most prominent in my memory.
That’s interesting, well done. I had discounted that scene as only Navarro’s perspective and imagination.
Then to be consistent it still can be - she imagined him doing that without watching him, like sensing someone behind you and we saw on screen what she imagined in her head. Or, the guy actually sat up and opened his eyes before he died, and Navarro imagined the talking when she turned to look at him. I can’t really know if that’s something people do before they die (I mean, they don’t, but in movies they do) as long as it’s somewhat plausible.
I’ll definitely keep an eye out for the audience perspective, though. I just get the sense, probably false, there is a potential for a “Keyser Soze / I see dead people” thing going on. I don’t mean it will be a series ending WTF-flashback scene like those movies, but rather just really making me think for sure one thing is happening, but all along it was something else if I just watched closely enough. Or more likely, never saying one way or the other.
And with that thinking in mind, I keep focusing on the one-person perspective versus multiple people seeing the same crazy thing as my barometer for real or supernatural. I don’t think different people would hallucinate the same exact thing.
Was he speaking during that POV? There was nothing necessarily supernatural about him just sitting up suddenly, as creepy as that might be.
Yes, he said something about Navarro’s mother was waiting for her, or something like that. But it could be that she hallucinated the speaking part. I am still holding out hope that this show has a real world explanation, since none of the other seasons were supernatural.
Other than this season, I only saw season one. Are seasons 2 and 3 worth watching, now that we have Max again?
A supernatural connection was heavily implied throughout season 1, but the actual culprits turned out to be very non-supernatural, if I recall. As has been pointed out in this thread, there are a number of connections between this season and season 1.
It is true that most of the seeming overtly supernatural stuff has been witnessed by Navarro (or her sister, but that was chalked up to her mental illness). But not all. Off the top of my head:
- Rose seeing her dead husband, who leads her to the corpiscle.
- Someone not long after that scene (I forget who) says that people tend to see the dead in Ennis, so apparently ghost sightings are not reserved to Rose and Navarro family members.
- The scientist at Tsalal having the seizure, then saying ‘she’s awake!’-- something science-fictiony, related to the ancient organisms they’re studying?
- Someone else says something about how ‘she’s awake and out there in the snow, feeding’ or something to that effect.
- Danvers seeing the one-eyed polar bear that Navarro saw (true, it could just be a polar bear, but doesn’t Danvers have a one-eyed polar bear stuffed doll that used to belong to her son who died, or something? Seems awfully coincidental).
At this point, it seems like the explanation can only be a range of ‘spooky supernatural’ or ‘weird science-fiction’ or ‘natural but extremely implausible’. I’m almost hoping it’s not the latter at this point, because something like ‘the mine caused a pollutant in the water that made everyone crazy’ would be a facepalm ending.
Only two more to go…
I watched Episode 5 last night. (The episode aired earlier this week because of some football game on Sunday evening.) I was quite surprised to see two men shot to death in the last five minutes of the episode, particularly when one of them was killed by his son.
There are still many unanswered questions.
Just watched it as well. I’m curious how all this will end. Appears to be a coverup with the Annie K murder and that will be resolved. Appears to be setting up the mining company as the main evil.
I’m not thinking we’ll get a clear answer on the supernatural stuff.
I think spoilers are open (see OP title) - but will blur just to learn how to do it: did Hank commit suicide by cop so to speak? Is that what he wanted, or was he going to shoot Danvers if not stopped. Hard to know, but I immediately thought it was suicide by cop since he let go of some secrets just before he slowly raised his gun.
Edit: Blurring worked! Easy. Now if I can just figure out how to embed pictures.
Yeah, the pacing really seems off with this show. For several episodes, including most of the last one, things seemed to meander, and then yeah, that happens. Now there are still a crap-ton of unanswered questions and probably not enough time to satisfactorily answer them all in one remaining episode. Kinda feels like it did toward the end of the last season of ‘Lost’.
I wondered that too, but if suicide was Hank’s intention, he should have just eaten his own gun, not forced his son to take him out. But then, he’s not exactly cop or father of the year, so that’s in character, I guess.
If they’re your pictures, you have to host them somewhere first, like Imgur. Then post the link to the pic.
If it’s a pic on the internet, and it allows permission to repost, you can right-click, choose “open image in new tab”, copy the direct image URL, and post it.
Thank you
I think he was planning on shooting Danvers and pinning everything on Otis (tying up two loose ends). Danvers knew that this was the only way it was going to go down at that point, hence her repeated pleas to Peter to “think”. Hank was gambling on “blood blood being thicker than water” - that he could shoot Danvers without Peter stopping him.