They had some money but not the millions that they would have had if the men had made it.
They were in Venzuela. Bez met the reporter in that hotel and we’re just going back to their place from there. She told the reporter to wait an hour before leaving. They were being careful to make sure that the reporter wasn’t followed and also that he couldn’t tell anyone where they lived should he be asked or threatened.
The man with them was Nails, Frank’s assistant who took Frank’s wife to Venezuela.
I just looked at that part towards the end again. Bez, after leaving the reporter, went back to a room (must be a hotel) where Mrs. Velcoro is waiting with a baby (which apparently is Bez’s). She says “He’s restless” and Bez replies “long trip ahead” then takes the baby from her.
As they exit the building there is a man there and Mrs. Velcoro hands him a bag that he slings over his shoulder (I missed that before) so obviously he’s with them and you’re probably correct the he’s Nails.
So why is Nails still hanging with them after nine months? And where are they going?
The implication is that the women are going to avenge Ray and Frank, with the help of Frank’s bodyguard / minion. But it’s not clear.
Frustrating end to a terrible follow-up season. Some things that bothered me:
Velcoro was in a bad situation, no question, but I thought he still could have pulled through if he’d kept his head. Stepping out from behind the tree like that was beyond stupid. He’d already whittled down the bad guys from five to three, and he had a shotgun and good cover.
Apparently the Mexicans who killed Frank had a copy of the script (just as the guy who killed Woodrough did). They knew exactly where to find him. I’ve been to California a few times, and if memory serves it’s a pretty big place. Amazing to think they could track him down 12 hours after he killed Osip. He could have been anywhere in the Western hemisphere at that point.
While it’s certainly possible the Mexicans knew of the destruction of Frank’s casinos, they had no reason whatsoever to think Frank was responsible. They knew Frank was being forced out by Osip; it was certainly possible Osip was destroying the clubs for insurance money, or even that a rival organization was moving in to take out Osip (especially after the massacre at the party house). Automatically knowing Frank was responsible, and then finding him so quickly, was ludicrous.
Rape-baby’s mother (who apparently wasn’t a rape-baby after all) needed somebody to shake her until her teeth rattled for the way she treated Ray.
I’m amazed at how people can look at a photograph that’s 20 years old and immediately know what children look like at this point. Ray remembered the photographer from the movie set (which had been, what, three months prior in the show?) and just KNEW he was the kid from the photograph of the diamond heist.
As I said before, there were just too dang many different storylines in this thing. Apparently it all started with a diamond robbery during the 1992 L.A. riots, but from there it became a convoluted mishmash of gangsters, drug deals, civic corruption, high-speed rail systems, gay cops, weird sex parties, communes, plastic surgery, and a bird mask.
Speaking of which, I thought for sure there would be some rationale for the bird mask after the first two episodes. Nope – it was just Caspere being weird. Fooled you, viewing audience!
Yes, I know the numbering of this list is odd. There’s a reason for it, though, which is revealed in a photograph I linked to in my first post in a thread that started in 2002. You’re expected to remember that.
Finally, somebody needs to go to that cheap hotel and tell Woodrough’s mom and baby-mom that he’s dead. For all we know, they’re still stuck there waiting to hear from him.
I actually really enjoyed the finale. It moves slow in the beginning, but a good kind of slow, not the crappy slow of the first half of the season. It felt really noir-ish. Especially in the last 45 minutes, where when you think Velcoro and Semyon may get out, the system they are trapped in comes back to wrench them in the dirt. With, of course, a ton of red herrings. A really brilliant end for Semyon as well - that was a great scene.
I figured they were in Brazil during Carnival for the meet with the reporter – so that if he’s followed it doesn’t lead anyone anywhere near them – and that the long trip ahead was going back to Venezuela.
My interpretation was Frank knew he wasn’t getting out of that situation. Once the guy said he wanted Frank’s suit, he knew they were going to leave him one way or the other. It was to be a final humiliation for him before they killed him. So, he figured he’d get in one last shot.
I’d like to think, if the diamonds were in his suit, they’d have shown him pulling them out at some point while he was staggering across the desert, just to drive the point home. They didn’t have time to do that, though, because it would have meant they couldn’t give us yet another aerial view of the freeways and railroads around Vinci.
I think maybe what happened was that they wanted to turn the evidence over to the reporter but they didn’t want anyone to know where they were living, so they met him someplace a long distance away from where they now live.
That would explain the long trip. They were heading back to their new home.
All of this could have been within Venezuela. They could have met him in some other country, but why risk crossing borders?
That was Venezuela, i saw a poster of Chavez outside. I figured the long trip was going back home to avenge their men, thus all the checking of weapons.