They become racist, or reveal their true racism, inaccurately perceived by their former actions and words?
I have to admit, I’m not entirely sure what to do with that suggestion. If someone’s priorities are such that *being called *a racist is a worse thing than being a racist - bearing in mind that we’re thinking here in terms of people who admit, to themselves, their racism, not just inaccurately perceive themselves as non-racists - how do you deal with that situation, especially considering that there are also people out there for whom it’s the opposite way around? It’s a problem that goes way past inaccurate pronouncements.
Why would they be bothered? Most conservatives are either against gays rights, seeing them as enabling degenerate behavior that attacks the foundation of civilization, or they think it’s a pet cause affecting few people that’s a distraction from actual issues, like the economy.
You’re being hypothetical (BTW, I agree with you).
I would like to hear it from his/her own two lips/fingers. I want some Doper/Trumper to express the courage of his/her convictions and state that it’s absolutely fine that Trump is surrounding himself with this type of adviser. I want to hear from someone who is satisfied, even thrilled, at the direction in which Trump seems to be steering the Ship of State.
See, I think they’re just as appalled as we liberals at the moronic trash that Trump is picking for his inner circle. Like us, they knew he was no mental giant, but they hoped that as the businessman he has always played at being, he would surround himself with brilliant staffers. Instead he’s picking bigots, racists, peabrains, and small-minded corporals who truly do not represent Trump’s constituency. His supporters here just hate to admit it’s not going the way they wanted it to. Hell, I’d be too embarrassed to defend him, too.
Maybe its my depraved imagination, but seems like a lot of posters who presented themselves as fervent and committed Trumpniks…well, maybe not “committed” maybe just certifiable…are surprisingly sensitive about the suggestion. Along the lines of “No, Hell, no, I didn’t vote for him or support him in any way, its just that you guys are a bunching of [fill in here].”
Kinda different from '04, when tighty-righty posters donned chiffon tutus and danced across my screen, tossing handfuls of glitter in the air while singing praise songs for GeeDubya.
Which is rather odd. 'Course, just as I said, might be nothing more than my depraved imagination. Which most likely would mean it ain’t so, and nobody else has noticed any such thing. You?
What? Me? I’m talking about another poster here, or multiple posters here, who, by their posts, have indicated that they have absolutely no problem with someone like Blackwell in power. They don’t care about gays at worst and hate them at best.
Well, unfortunately, even then it’s not necessarily guaranteed.
People said throughout the campaign being associated with Trump would kill careers because he was going to lose and destroy the Republican Party.
**It’s time to stop saying this. ** Being associated with Trump gives someone power, influence, and authority. These people are going to be running the United States.
So why not actually be racist or homophobic? That sounds like the reaction of someone who wants to be racist or homophobic, not someone who wants to not be racist or homophobic.
Even if gays could be made straight (I do not believe this and I am not a gay hater), why should they? I mean, lefties can be taught to use their right hands, but why should they?
Who are gays hurting, and why is it so bad that they should be forced to go straight? Maybe we should go back to the day when blacks “passed” for white.
These people most likely believe the stories they were told as children about how the universe was created by a buff old white guy who takes an inordinate interest in the politics of bronze-age villages and the kind of sex short-lived bags of chemicals have with each other. Do not seek reason there.
I truly believe that people like Pence are scared shitless by gays because of their own gay tendencies. He thinks that if there were no gay men he’d stop having those disturbing dreams where he’s sucking cock.
Straight people who are comfortable with their straightness tend not to care that others are gay. In fact, I’ve known more than one straight guy who felt that the more gay guys there are, the more women are available.
When the GOP got a wave election on a census year, they used their newfound power to gerrymander districts so that they could have a decade of enshrined power. They get fewer votes, they keep the House.
I think it’s reasonable to assume that the GOP with a lock on all three branches, and a few SCOTUS votes in their pockets, will further enshrine power on their side, and make it more difficult to pry them free of it.
Sorry, I must have been unclear. The Republicans definitely never miss a chance to miss a chance to govern responsibly, but I was talking about the idea that most Republicans see hitching their wagon to Trump as the way to long-term power. It could be true, but I hope it’s not. I was trying to agree with the person RickJay was disagreeing with. But I fully expect for the GOP to do what they always do-- promise to focus on economics, but jump right into abortion restrictions instead. :rolleyes:
It is their path, most assuredly. It is the means by which they will solidify their structural advantages so that they can resist any unfortunate shifts in demographics.
How many claimed they weren’t, but might as well as been? That would be those who would spend 90% of their post describing all that was supposedly wrong with Clinton, repeating most(if not all) of the right-wing talking points, then end it with variations of “but very reluctantly, because Trump is worse, I don’t think I can vote for him.” I’m wondering if they would have done any worse damage to the cause if they hadn’t said anything at all and just voted for Trump.
Agreed, I am of the opinion that everyone who said “I am holding my nose, and voting for Clinton” caused other voters to think, “I don’t want to hold my nose, I’ll vote for Trump.”
By talking up the disagreeable part, even if you then follow it with a lecture on why Trump is unfit for president, the disagreeable part is what people remember. People think, well, even the people that are voting for her don’t like her, how can I?
They would have done less damage had they just voted without the commentary, even if they voted for trump.
With Bricker’s description of his experience at the polls, I would think that it is quite likely that his antics solidified at least one vote for Trump, multiply that by all the conversations he and other nose holders for Clinton had in which they downplayed and insulted the candidate they were going to vote for, and all the talking heads (I can’t tell how many times I heard variations of that phrase "holding their nose and voting for Clinton), starts to make sense.