Trump and LGBTQ's?

Forgive me if this sounds naïve, but I just have to ask. What if anything has President Trump done to help LGBTQ’s?

In case you don’t know, during the 2016 election, Mr. Trump promised gay people he’d have their backs (no pun intended). He even waved the rainbow flag at one point. And reportedly some gays still support him now.

But what has he done? And could he be holding off for some future time to help them (LGBTQ’s)?

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He’s banned trans people from the military and attacked the process by which they get their passports issued under the correct name and gender (a process which was simplified greatly by one Secretary Clinton). Note that the actual passport policy hasn’t truly changed.

His opinion on SSM changes with the day of the week, or maybe with who’s asking, or with who he’s spoken with last.

Things he could do to help LGBTQ people include letting those seeking asylum on account of “in my country it’s illegal to be me” apply for it, not kicking them from their jobs, letting them obtain ID which doesn’t misname or misgender them and making it clear that their marriage rights are here to stay. And well, simplifying bureaucratic processes such as that for getting a corrected passport is something that pretty much any government could do for any of their citizens, really.

Funny you mention it; not all that long ago one of my favorite journalists wrote this article: “It’s time for a reckoning for journalists who boosted false narratives about Donald Trump’s LGBTQ policy positions.”

The Trump administration hasn’t just been bad for LGBTQ rights, he’s been appalling. The idea that he’s somehow “pro-LGBTQ” is propaganda, not reality. This has been obvious since before the election, and since being elected, Trump has done nothing positive for LGBTQ rights, instead attacking them on all fronts. What did you expect from a republican?

The USA is a large country. Every demographic group has a lot of Trump supporters in it, even if they’re a small minority within that group. Trump’s worst demographic in 2016 was black women, and there were probably still a hundred thousand black women who voted for him.

Yeah.

Like, let’s be clear, your demographic is no excuse for your politics. Milo Yiannopolous is a gay man who famously mostly fucks black people. He’s also a full-blown neo-nazi who helped mainstream the white supremacists in the alt-right.

Or, if you prefer a more historical comparison, Ernst Röhm was a gay man who was the founder and commander of the SA and a close collaborator with Hitler near the start of the nazi party.

It’s entirely possible to endorse a political party that wants to strip you of your rights or even kill you. It’s especially possible if you’re the kind of person who isn’t deeply reliant on those rights, or who has the money to ignore what you’re losing. For example: Peter Thiel is rich enough that there’s no realistic way his sexuality will really matter to him; if things get bad enough that they might he can load up a private jet and skip town. It’s easy enough to think that the Leopards Eating People’s Faces party is only going to feed other people to the Leopards.

Some people are single issue voters and that issue doesn’t have to align with a demographic group. If you are LGBTQ and either anti-abortion or anti-immigrant, Trump is your candidate.

Are you kidding!? He’s Made America Great Again, boosted the economy (DOW over 25000!!!) , solved the North Korea problem once and for all, turned the screws on China and rebuilt American manufacturing to its former glory, and generally pissed off the libs on an almost daily basis!

If the LGBTQ+ community can’t appreciate all of that, that’s their problem.

I’m LGBT, and I held a small hope that Trump wouldn’t be horrible on LGBT issues. He’s from NYC and has worked in entertainment most of his life so he’s definitely had interactions with the community as opposed to someone like George W. Bush who is from Texas and worked in pro baseball.

I don’t think Trump is a homophobe, but people like Pence, Jerry Falwell JR, and Franklin Graham have his ear. And, even Trump knows that the right wing evangelicals are the absolute base of the Republican Party and he needs to throw them red meat every now and then.

Well, here is the best turd shine the Log Cabin Republicans could put on Trump. For those who don’t want to wallow through this drivel here are the main arguments (with my commentary).
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[li]** Trump said good things about gays at the 2016 convention:** Talk is cheap, particularly for Trump who at one time or another has claimed to support either side of pretty much every issue.[/li][li]** Trump isn’t as bad a Pat Buchanan:** That is a pretty damn low bar.[/li][li]** He’s promised to cure AIDS in 10 years.** He’s also promised to cure cancer, go to Mars, sustain 6% economic growth, and have Mexico pay for a border wall.[/li][li]** He’s pushed for the world wide decriminalization of Homosexuality: ** This is more about condemning Muslims than it is about supporting gay rights. [/li][li]** He’s appointed lots of gays to his administration.** They only mention the most prominent one by name, Richard Grenell the Ambassador to Germany, hardly a Cabinet post. If he is the best example, it’s pretty clear that no real effort has been placed in that direction.[/li][/ol]

Any actual anti-abortion single-issue voter would vote Democratic. There aren’t many anti-abortion Democrats, but there are at least a few. There are zero anti-abortion Republicans. Anti-choice, sure, but they’d be just as happy to mandate abortions as to prohibit them.