Trump Crowds vs Biden Crowds

One thing that I have learned to take from the last decade or so is that social media is not reflective of the majority, just the most vocal.

The “rank and file” Democrats do not operate on hate, they do not operate on a us vs them mentality. They operate on looking at what is best for our country, for both Democrats and Republicans.

People dismiss criticism of Trump as though it is just because the criticizer hates Trump, as though the actual actions of Trump are not the reason for that dislike. I don’t hate Trump, though I do hate what he has done to our country, and that’s a nuanced line that many do not internalize themselves, much less give credit to in their opponents.

Point is, is that people are motivated to vote against Trump due to a love of their country, and a fear of what may further befall it if he is given another 4 years.

I will not speak for the rank and file of Republicans, there very well may be some nuanced reasons for their belief (a very wrong belief, IMNSHO) that Trump is best for our country. Those at the rallies for Trump, however, are there motivated out of hatred for their fellow citizens of the United States, as well as the rest of the world (except Russia, they like Russia.)

I’m sure that they will find some way to blame it on Democrats, and not on themselves or those they support.

I can’t believe why anyone has to ask why a candidate doesn’t hold super spreader events. It’s called being responsible. End of story. Sure he could draw bigger crowds, but I think Biden has enough of a sense of personal responsibility to not try to do so. And in January, he’s going to draw the smallest Inauguration crowd in recent memory. That’s fine with me. Biden leads by example.

Biden events are staged. Trump events are staged. Campaign events in general are staged.

There is literally a stage involved.

Excuse me, Lance, but I believe you dropped this microphone?

You’re literally making up a narrative to answer a question. for starters, Trump is going to small cities and drawing crowds from all over. Even in the pouring rain.

And your covid explanation makes no sense at all. Why create a rally in the first place for a handful of people? He can host a “townhall” rally in his basement and save himself a shit-ton of money and time.

It’s more likely Biden’s campaign managers are afraid of Biden in a speaking role and are doing everything they can to limit public appearances while at the same time present a facade of campaigning.

Your post is almost entirely wrong. Like on every level. Congratulations. The literal difference is that Trump doesn’t care about his followers catching Covid, and Biden does care about his followers catching Covid.

That’s not a narrative, that’s literally what reality shows. Trump when asked if he was concerned about Covid at his rallies said something along the lines of, “No, I’m like 200 feet away from them. Not concerned.” He literally doesn’t care if they get it. He cares, or cared, if he gets it.

He’s gutter trash.That’s why he holds large events. It helps that his followers are generally very stupid and discount Covid as well.

Also, you think Biden’s crew are afraid of giving him a speaking role? Do you know that they film them? Seriously, that’s the goofiest thing I’ve read today.

Seriously? It’s 100% so the local news will have a lead story of “Joe Biden was in Philadelphia/Cleveland/Iowa today urging people to vote. He talked about blah, blah, blah.”

People like it when candidates come to their states. Down-ticket candidates appreciate it. Donors appreciate it. This is Campaigning 101.

If you have any evidence that crowd size is correlated with victory I’d love to see it.

As to COVID being an excuse, I can tell you that as someone that went to Obama rallies twice, and a Clinton rally, I wouldn’t go to any political rally right now. It’s just a completely stupid risk, for zero benefit.

Because the optics of staying at home would look pathetic. The optics of going out there and fighting for the local swing voters looks much better.

This is pretty basics politics 101. You really think he’d be doing better if he was staying at home doing videos in his basement?

And conveniently feed into the ludicrous “Biden is hiding in his basement” narrative Trump has been spreading.

Then Biden’s stupid for holding rallys based on your logic. What a flaming waste of time and money for zero benefit.

Oh for Christ’s sake, it’s a political campaign. EVERYTHING is “staged”, including Trump’s “massive rallies”. Read up a bit on how they pick who will sit behind Trump on stage, so they can be seen on camera. It’s all staged to send a particular message. Every aspect of every campaign in the modern era is planned out in every detail they can control.

Biden is running as the Responsible Candidate, contrasting himself from the Irresponsible Candidate, and his campaign events are structured to show that, just as Trump’s events are structured to contrast the Popular Candidate from the Boring Candidate.

The only difference between the two is that you’ve swallowed Trump’s narrative hook, line and sinker.

Um, no. I explained the benefit in the post (not the part you quoted). It’s for local news coverage (and also video that can be shared on social media). It’s cheap advertising (compared to ad buys at least).

Also, Biden has plenty of money.

ETA: And yes, if he were trying to hold massive rallies it would be stupid. Because you can’t be preaching a message of personal responsibility to end the pandemic while holding massive rallies. It’s incoherent.

Yes, but if you ignore those reasons and start with the assumption that Biden is stupid, incompetent and malign, it makes no sense!

Why would he need to “save money”? Have you not noticed the many stories about Biden raising far more money than Trump the last few months?

Saving money is the last thing they need to worry about right now.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-23/biden-increases-fundraising-advantage-over-trump-in-october

Getting on local news, talking to local reporters, and being seen traveling the country is quite a bit of benefit.

It’s amazing how wanting to believe Trump is super awesome and Biden isn’t can make someone unable to reason out the answer to a very, very simple question.

This is a bullshit accusation easily debunked by Biden’s speech in Atlanta yesterday. While Biden’s debate skills are pretty soft, Biden is a good public speaker.

That’s pretty much what the OP is asking: Trump told me Biden is stupid. So why isn’t he acting stupid?

For most of us the answer is obvious: Trump is lying. But if you insist on believing that everything Trump says is true, the difference between what Trump is saying and the evidence you see all around you requires a lot of explanation.

And certainly like orders of magatude better than Trump. That was originally a typo, but I’m keeping it.