At least it’s not a Quran bookmark. I’m not having any luck looking for mention of bookmarks in the Quran. Maybe they’re too complicated.
An antichrist is one whose teachings are counter to the christ’s. Like Saul / Paul.
At least it’s not a Quran bookmark. I’m not having any luck looking for mention of bookmarks in the Quran. Maybe they’re too complicated.
An antichrist is one whose teachings are counter to the christ’s. Like Saul / Paul.
Huge differences separate Donald Trump from the prophesied Antichrist. But most of us don’t believe in prophesies much anyway. One thing is clear: this oaf has already done huge damage. Many decades from now, people may point to him when they lament the Decline and Fall of America.
In comparing Trump with other Antichrists, real or imagined, the following quote might work well, with a few words changed:
I don’t see Trump as an Antichrist, but is the embodiment of the 7 deadly sins.
The real bad thing IMHO is how many in the religious right are ignoring the gross hypocrisy in continuing to support someone like Trump.
Do you have a cite that Mike Pompeo believes that Trump is the anti-Christ, or that he believes that we are currently in the End Times?
I can’t tell if you’re Just Asking Questions or really don’t know this, but Mike Pompeo’s stated belief in Rapture eschatology is well known, and he alluded to it explicitly in a public rally back in 2015.
Exactly where Pompeo believes we are at the moment in this eschatological timeline I don’t know.
So you don’t have a cite. That’s kind of obvious, and also my point.
Regards,
Shodan
So you don’t have a cite. That’s kind of obvious, and also my point.
Regards,
Shodan
He just posted a cite. Sorry you ignored it.
She, I believe.
Do you have such a cite?
Regards,
Shodan
She, I believe.
Do you have such a cite?
Regards,
Shodan
Why are you ignoring the one already posted?
Regards,
Happy
Ok, let’s review the bidding on the latest Shodan vs everyone contretemps.
The OP used a quote from the NY times that said:
Both Mike Pompeo and Mike Pence who have pushed Trump towards aggressive action towards Iran believe that there is a battle between good and evil that will end with “the Rapture”. A key belief of the evangelical Christian extremists is the establishment of a “greater Israel” before the end of days.
Afterwards RTFirefly posted a response wondering why Pompeo thinks that way:
I’ve been a born-again Christian since the fall of 1970, back in the “Late Great Planet Earth” days.
Needless to say, I’ve seen prospective End Times come and go. After awhile, if you’ve got a functioning brain, you look and see all those other times that were supposedly about to be the End Times, and you think, “there’s nothing particularly special about this time either, why would anyone who’s been around the block a couple of times believe that this time is really going to be the End Times?”
Mike Pompeo is 56 years old. That’s a bit too old for falling for this shit. He shouldn’t be trusted with the car keys, let alone have a substantial role in government.
Shodan, instead of referencing the NY times ‘opinion’ and questioning it, attributes a position to RTFirefly that he manifestly did not make.
Do you have a cite that Mike Pompeo believes that Trump is the anti-Christ, or that he believes that we are currently in the End Times?
Or that he had the Iranian general whacked because of a Swiss Army knife pointing to the book of Esther, or pretty much anything else claimed in the thread.
Regards,
Shodan
Kimstu responds with evidence that Pompeo is a believer in the “Rapture” and provides additional evidence.
I can’t tell if you’re Just Asking Questions or really don’t know this, but Mike Pompeo’s stated belief in Rapture eschatology is well known, and he alluded to it explicitly in a public rally back in 2015.
Exactly where Pompeo believes we are at the moment in this eschatological timeline I don’t know.
Shodan continues to argue about a cite for Trump being the Anti-Christ, a point neither RTFirefly or Kimstu maintained in their posts.
So you don’t have a cite. That’s kind of obvious, and also my point.
Regards,
Shodan
My conclusion (FWIW) is that Shodan started an argument, but with the wrong people and on false pretenses, attributing views not in evidence from the two people he engaged.
IMHO as always. YMMV
OK, at least we have established that this -
Trump is the Antichrist to some people, and it’s okay with them
isn’t true, or at least nobody has been cited who fits that description. Certainly not Mike Pompeo.
Further, the NYT opinion writer alleges that Pompeo is hostile to Iran, and offers as his evidence that he allegedly saw a Swiss Army knife pointing to a passage in the book of Esther. The book of Esther doesn’t mention the end times, nor the anti-Christ, nor Trump, nor even God. I don’t consider that to be good evidence. So, could we get a cite that Pompeo’s hostility to Iran is based on Esther, rather than, for instance, Iran’s state sponsorship of terrorism, their efforts to develop a nuclear bomb, their killing of Americans, their unfortunate habit of chanting “death to America”, etc., etc.?
Regards,
Shodan
Further, the NYT opinion writer alleges that Pompeo is hostile to Iran, and offers as his evidence that he allegedly saw a Swiss Army knife pointing to a passage in the book of Esther. The book of Esther doesn’t mention the end times, nor the anti-Christ, nor Trump, nor even God. I don’t consider that to be good evidence. So, could we get a cite that Pompeo’s hostility to Iran is based on Esther, rather than, for instance, Iran’s state sponsorship of terrorism, their efforts to develop a nuclear bomb, their killing of Americans, their unfortunate habit of chanting “death to America”, etc., etc.?
Regards,
Shodan
PerhapsCBN is more to your liking, start at the 1:40 mark. Read that question back, and Pompeo’s answer.
Well there is a Hebrew letter that looks just like that, a Swiss Army Knife. So maybe Pompeo uses that for some kind of a of symbolic inspiration and evangelical support for Israel, hell if I know.
But using a Swiss Army knife to mark a page in Ester shouldn’t be the thing one is the most concerned about. The craziness of fundamentalists and evangelicals and the shit they read in holy works that inspires them should be.
I don’t know about you guys, but knowing that one of the most powerful guys on the planet is drawing his cues from endtimes gobbledigook ; and not only that but is trying to get the end times GOING is kind of freaking me right the fuck out.
OK, at least we have established that this - isn’t true, or at least nobody has been cited who fits that description. Certainly not Mike Pompeo.
Right wing religious folks love to interpret this sort of stuff and speculate who is the AntiChrist. A quick search on Amazon produced these works that think Trump is just that. Who knows, maybe Pompeo plays a role, but you gotta be careful with amateur propheteers, yeah, like a doctor of divinity I’m sure could narrow it down and clear it all right up.
Rise of the Little Horn names Trump as the AntiChrist. Read the reviews, doesn’t appear to be a parody. Athough I’m sure Trump is most offended by Little Horn, and would have preferred Big Horn. Book even says it is not a work of fiction, so dar ya go!
The Fourth Beast: Is Donald Trump the Antichrist?
Is Trump the AntiChrist, The Future
A least this last one, not the AntiChrist, Trump is just a stubborn Goat King of the West.
LOL. One of the amusing things about getting old is seeing the same bullshit recycled again and again, and watching young people (or old people with no memory) fall for it.
Pretty much every time an Evangelical has gotten near Miiddle East policy in the last 40 years, media types but have no clue about what evangelicals actually believe get their panties in a twist about how all the Jeebus freaks are trying to usher in the end times.
PerhapsCBN is more to your liking, start at the 1:40 mark. Read that question back, and Pompeo’s answer.
Well there is a Hebrew letter that looks just like that, a Swiss Army Knife. So maybe Pompeo uses that for some kind of a of symbolic inspiration and evangelical support for Israel, hell if I know.
But using a Swiss Army knife to mark a page in Ester shouldn’t be the thing one is the most concerned about. The craziness of fundamentalists and evangelicals and the shit they read in holy works that inspires them should be.
The funny thing is that according to the Bible and history alike, in all of antiquity, Persia was the Jews’ greatest friend and benefactor. Cyrus the Great, after all, freed the Jews from bondage in Babylon and allowed them to rebuild the Temple, granting them full religious. Other than that unfortunate incident with Haman (who was just the one guy), the Persian Empire were the nicest people we ever dealt with.
LOL. One of the amusing things about getting old is seeing the same bullshit recycled again and again, and watching young people (or old people with no memory) fall for it.
Pretty much every time an Evangelical has gotten near Miiddle East policy in the last 40 years, media types but have no clue about what evangelicals actually believe get their panties in a twist about how all the Jeebus freaks are trying to usher in the end times.
Forty years ago I lived a mile away from Wheaton College, Billy Graham 's alma mater. I have a fair idea what Evangelicals believe. First, I’m going to Hell.
I remember an article by Gore Vidal predicting that Ronald Reagan would initiate Armageddon before leaving office to fulfil the prophesy.
forty years ago i lived a mile away from wheaton college, billy graham 's alma mater. I have a fair idea what evangelicals believe.
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It was the good old days when all you needed to say to a freshman asking, "Have you been saved? " was "No, I’m Catholic. " Then their profs put a bounty on Catholics, so I switched to being Jewish. That didn’t last (perhaps the profs learned the error of their Protestant ways and introduced the kids to indulgences), so I tried, “Have you heard the good news of Rev Sun Myung Moon?” Before I needed to learn anything about the Unification Church it was just easier to move to the next town east.